Argument and language

For a mortal and so far as possible

ὡς (hōs); δυνατός (dynatos)

These phrases make the limits of mortal fulfilment explicit.

From the book

Symposium

Plato · Diotimos Editions · 2026

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Orientation

At a Glance

  • The wordThese phrases make the limits of mortal fulfilment explicit.
  • In the SymposiumGeneration is not said to turn the mortal creature straightforwardly into an unchanging god.
  • Reading contextGeneration is not said to turn the mortal creature straightforwardly into an unchanging god.
  • A place to readThe immortality of generation receives a mortal qualification.

Meaning

These phrases make the limits of mortal fulfilment explicit.

Use in the book

Generation is not said to turn the mortal creature straightforwardly into an unchanging god. It is deathless in the way available to mortal nature, which is then explained through replacement and offspring. Keeping the qualifiers prevents the immortality vocabulary from promising more than the intermediate argument establishes. The different closing possibility at 212a must still be read on its own terms.

Places to read

  1. 206e–207aThe immortality of generation receives a mortal qualification.
  2. 207d–208b2Capacity is limited, and replacement explains the possible achievement.

δυνατός (dynatos)

dynatos — Possible or within a capacity.

  • 207d — κατὰ τὸ δυνατὸν. Mortal nature seeks immortality only so far as it can.

Read: For a mortal and so far as possible.

ὡς (hōs)

hōs — As or in the capacity of; the local phrase limits the application of immortal.

  • 206e — ὡς θνητῷ. Generation is everlasting and immortal for a mortal.

Read: For a mortal and so far as possible.