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The Lovers
Plato · Diotimos Editions · 2026
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At a Glance
- The wordPolypragmonein is to meddle or be a busybody, occupying oneself with many affairs.
- In The LoversAfter deriving the unacceptable result that philosophers would be base and useless, Socrates proposes that philosophy is something else.
- In this editionEdition note 23 connects polypragmonein with the same verb in Charmides 161d.
- A place to readοὐδὲ πολυπραγμονοῦντα κυπτάζοντα ζῆν — A rejected way of life is busy and physically stooped over its concerns.
Meaning
Polypragmonein is to meddle or be a busybody, occupying oneself with many affairs. Kyptazein means to stoop or bend over things; in the phrase at 137b it gives this life a bodily posture. Pragmateia is occupation, business or sustained involvement; at 139a the edition renders the phrase about crafts as “busying oneself with the crafts.” These related-looking terms should not all be flattened into a single technical concept of scholarship.
The participles polypragmonounta and kyptazonta at 137b describe how one lives. They are evaluative and picturesque, not a neutral catalogue of a philosopher’s research methods.
Use in the book
After deriving the unacceptable result that philosophers would be base and useless, Socrates proposes that philosophy is something else. The rejected description includes earnest occupation with crafts, living as a busybody stooped over things and learning much. The language compresses the lover’s various attempts into a recognizable way of life, scattered among many pursuits yet capable of consuming a person’s attention.
This criticism does not straightforwardly amount to “curiosity is bad.” The dialogue itself begins with an inquiry into what philosophy is, and Socrates continues asking questions after two proposals fail. The target is the identification of philosophy with an accumulation of technical occupations, not the mere act of investigating an unfamiliar subject. Nor is all practical engagement rejected: the ending insists on responsible participation in one’s household and city.
The posture also complicates the lover’s initial distinction between intellectual understanding and manual work. He had imagined broad education as liberating him from servile absorption. Socrates redescribes the result as a stooping, busy life associated with the very crafts from which the lover wished to maintain distance. This is rhetorically pointed, and its force draws partly on social contempt for technical labor. It should not be presented as a demonstration independent of those values.
The conclusion at 139a repeats the rejection in less pictorial form: philosophy is far from much learning and occupation with the crafts. That explicit negative result is firmer textual ground than any proposed positive definition inferred from the intervening ethical argument.
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Translation in this edition
Edition note 23 connects polypragmonein with the same verb in Charmides 161d. The apparatus at 137b reports B’s kyptazonta and T’s ktypazonta, as well as a proposed deletion in the surrounding phrase. The article follows the edition’s chosen “stooping over things”; it does not claim to settle the textual issue independently.