Stobaeus, Volume II

Name: Stobaeus, Volume II
Author: John Stobaeus

Greek and English with an introduction and explanatory footnotes.

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Book II Chapter 33 · II.33.11–II.33.14

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⟨Θουκυδίδου⟩

II.33.11

Εἰδότες οὔτε φιλίαν ἰδιώταις βεβαίαν γιγνομένην οὔτε κοινωνίαν πόλεσιν, εἰ μὴ μετὰ ἀρετῆς δοκούσης ἐς ἀλλήλους γίγνοιντο καὶ τἆλλα ὁμοιότροποι εἶεν· ἐν γὰρ τῷ διαλλάσσοντι τῆς γνώμης καὶ αἱ διαφοραὶ τῶν ἔργων καθίστανται.

Ἀριστοτέλους

II.33.12

Ὥσπερ ὁ οἶνος κίρναται τοῖς τῶν πινόντων τρόποις, οὕτω καὶ ἡ φιλία τοῖς τῶν χρωμένων ἤθεσι.

II.33.13

Πυθαγόρας ἐρωτηθείς, τί ἐστι φίλος, ἀπεκρίνατο· “Ἄλλος ἐγώ”.

II.33.14

Τὴν φιλίαν ἔφη ἰσότητα εἶναι.

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⟨Thucydides⟩

II.33.11

Knowing that neither friendship between individuals nor partnership between cities becomes secure unless they should deal with one another with apparent virtue and be alike in other respects as well.¹⁴⁸⁵ For differences in action, too, arise where judgment differs.¹⁴⁸⁶

Aristotle

II.33.12

As wine is blended to suit the drinkers’ dispositions, so is friendship to suit the characters of those who engage in it.¹⁴⁸⁷

II.33.13

When Pythagoras was asked what a friend is, he answered, “Another I.”¹⁴⁸⁸

II.33.14

He said that friendship is equality.¹⁴⁸⁹

1485.Wachsmuth supplies the attribution to Thucydides, identifying III.10. The excerpt begins with a participle, knowing, whose governing construction lies outside this selection. The conditional wording retains the hypothetical force of γίγνοιντο and εἶεν.

1486.The printed δοκούσης means seeming or apparent: the passage requires virtue as it appears to the parties, without asserting that this appearance guarantees genuine virtue. Similarity in other respects is also an explicit condition.

1487.Κίρναται means is mixed or blended; the same verb is understood in the second half. The comparison makes the participants’ character determine the form of friendship, as the drinkers’ dispositions determine the blending of wine.

1488.Ἄλλος ἐγώ literally means another I: the friend is described as another self. The wording is kept distinct from the image of one soul in two bodies in II.33.10.

1489.He continues the attribution to Pythagoras in the preceding excerpt. The brief saying gives no further specification of what kind of equality is meant.

About This Reading Edition

The complete surviving text of Stobaeus’s second book, through II.46.22, in Ancient Greek and English, with an introduction and 1,541 explanatory notes. All forty-six chapter headings remain, including the notices for chapters whose texts are missing.

Historical Text and Translation

Greek: Curt Wachsmuth, Ioannis Stobaei Anthologii libri duo priores, volumen II (Berlin: Weidmann, 1884), printed p. 1 and pp. 3–264. The supplied edition preserves consequential editorial signs, reconstructed joins, qualified attributions, and missing-text notices. English translation, introduction, and explanatory notes: Diotimos Editions, 2026.

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This historical edition credits Diotimos Editions as its English translator.

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