Stobaeus, Volume I

Name: Stobaeus, Volume I
Author: John Stobaeus

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Book I Chapter 50 · I.50.41.1–I.50.41.3

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41.1

I.50.41.1

Πλάτωνος ἐν Τιμαίῳ.

Λόγος δὲ ὁ κατὰ ταὐτὸν γιγνόμενος, περί τε θάτερον ὢν καὶ περὶ τὸ ταὐτόν, ἐν τῷ κινουμένῳ ὑφ᾽ αὑτοῦ φερόμενος ἄνευ φθόγγου καὶ ἠχῆς, ὅταν μὲν περὶ τὸ αἰσθητὸν γίγνηται καὶ ὁ τοῦ θατέρου κύκλος ὀρθὸς ἰὼν εἰς πᾶσαν αὐτοῦ τὴν ψυχὴν διαγγείλῃ, δόξαι καὶ πίστεις γίγνονται βέβαιοι καὶ ἀληθεῖς·

41.2

I.50.41.2

ὅταν δὲ αὖ περὶ τὸ λογιστικὸν ᾖ καὶ ὁ τοῦ ταὐτοῦ κύκλος εὔτροχος ὢν αὐτὰ μηνύσῃ, νοῦς ἐπιστήμη τε ἐξ ἀνάγκης ἀποτελεῖται,

41.3

I.50.41.3

τούτω δὲ ἐν ᾧ τῶν ὄντων ἐγγίγνεσθον, ἄν ποτέ τις αὐτὸ ἄλλο πλὴν ψυχὴν εἴπῃ, πᾶν μᾶλλον ἢ τἀληθὲς ⟨ἐρεῖ⟩.

Stobaeus, Volume I: Book I Chapter 50

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41.1 · True beliefs about perceptible things

I.50.41.1

Plato, in the Timaeus.

“Discourse proceeding in the same way, concerning both Difference and Sameness, and borne without voice or sound in that which moves itself, produces firm and true opinions and convictions when it concerns what is perceptible and the circle of Difference, moving correctly, reports throughout its entire soul.”¹⁹⁶²

41.2 · Intellect and knowledge

I.50.41.2

“But when it concerns what is accessible to reasoning, and the circle of Sameness, turning smoothly, announces these things, intellect and knowledge necessarily result.”¹⁹⁶³

41.3 · The soul as their seat

I.50.41.3

“Whatever existing thing these two arise in, if anyone ever calls it anything other than soul, he ⟨will say⟩ anything but the truth.”¹⁹⁶⁴

1962.The edition identifies Timaeus 37b. Logos here is an inward discourse without audible speech. Difference and Sameness name the two principles whose circles are described in this excerpt; its larger setting is not reproduced. The printed reflexive hautou, itself, is retained. The passage explicitly allows firm, true beliefs about perceptible things.

1963.The printed logistikon is retained and provisionally rendered what is accessible to reasoning; it is not silently changed to noēton, intelligible. Eutrochos describes a circle running or turning well. Intellect and knowledge are distinguished from the opinions and convictions of the preceding clause.

1964.The dual toutō, these two, is taken here with the nearest pair, intellect and knowledge. Another interpretation refers to the two kinds of cognition just contrasted: opinion and conviction, and intellect and knowledge. Archer-Hind discusses both readings at Timaeus 37c and favors the former. The dual verb remains; supplied erei, will say, is marked in both languages. Chapter 50 ends at printed p. 480 line 25.

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Stobaeus gathered Greek philosophy and poetry for his son Septimius. Volume I presents the dedication testimony, On Arithmetic, Book I through chapter 60, and the ancient contents of all four books. This complete bilingual edition includes an introduction and 2,117 explanatory notes.

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