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Book I Chapter 49 · I.49.54.1–I.49.54.2
Ancient Greek
p. 139454.1
Ἐν ταὐτῷ. Τὰ μὲν οὖν ἀνθρώπεια καὶ ὅλως τοὺς ζῶντας ἀγνοοῦσιν, ἀλλήλους δὲ ἴσασιν. Εἰ γὰρ μὴ τοῦτο εἶχον, πῶς ἂν ἦλθον σὺν Ἀγαμέμνονι πάντες οἱ ἅμα ἀνῃρημένοι; Πῶς δὲ συνελάλει Πάτροκλος καὶ Αἴας καὶ Ἀντίλοχος; Πῶς δ᾽ εἴργουσι τοὺς ἀτάφους μὴ πέραν τοῦ ποταμοῦ διελθεῖν; Λέγει δέ·
τῆλέ με εἴργουσι ψυχαί, εἴδωλα καμόντων.54.2
Συναποτέθειται δ᾽ αὐτοῖς ἅμα τῇ μνήμῃ καὶ τὰ γνωρίσματα τῶν περὶ τὸ σῶμα οἰκείων, ὃ καὶ δῆλον ὅτι διὰ φαντασίας τὰ περὶ τὸ σῶμα δείκνυσι. Διὰ γὰρ μνήμης ἡ φαντασία, ὡς Πλάτων ἐν Φιλήβῳ φησί· μνήμης δὲ ἀφῃρημένης ἦρται καὶ τὸ φαντασιούμενον, οὗ συνεκλιπόντος καὶ τὰ πάθη τὰ περὶ τὸ σῶμα τῆς ψυχῆς συνεξῆρται.
Stobaeus, Volume I: Book I Chapter 49
p. 139554.1 · Recognition among the dead
From the same work. They are ignorant, then, of human affairs and, in general, of the living, but know one another. For if they did not possess this knowledge, how could all those killed together have come with Agamemnon? How could Patroclus, Ajax, and Antilochus converse? How could they prevent the unburied from passing beyond the river? He says:
The souls keep me far away, images of those who have toiled.1675
54.2 · Memory, imagination, and bodily affections
Along with memory they have also laid aside the recognizable features of what belongs to the body. This too makes clear that it is through imagination that the things associated with the body are displayed. For imagination works through memory, as Plato says in the Philebus. When memory is removed, what is imagined is removed too; when that likewise disappears, the soul’s affections concerning the body are also taken away.1676
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