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John Stobaeus

Stobaeus, Volume I

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Book I Chapter 19 · I.19.8–I.19.9.1

Ancient Greek

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8 Τοῦ αὐτοῦ ἐκ τοῦ Θεαιτήτου

I.19.8

Καί μοι λέγε· ἆρα κινεῖσθαι καλεῖς, ὅταν τι χώραν ἐκ χώρας μεταβάλλῃ, ἢ καὶ ἐν τῷ αὐτῷ στρέφηται;

Ἔγωγε.

Τοῦτο μὲν τοίνυν ἓν ἔστω εἶδος· ὅταν δὲ ᾖ μὲν ἐν τῷ αὐτῷ, γηράσκῃ δέ, ἢ μέλαν ἐκ λευκοῦ ἢ σκληρὸν ἐκ μαλακοῦ γίγνηται, ἤ τινα ἄλλην ἀλλοίωσιν ἀλλοιῶται, ἆρα οὐκ ἄξιον ἕτερον εἶδος κινήσεως φάναι;

Ἀναγκαῖον μὲν οὖν.

Δύο δὴ λέγω τούτω εἴδη κινήσεως, ἀλλοίωσιν, τὴν δὲ περιφοράν.

9 Ἐν ταὐτῷ · 1

I.19.9.1

Ἐγὼ ἐρῶ καὶ μάλα οὐ φαῦλον λόγον· ὡς ἄρα ἓν μὲν αὐτὸ καθ’ ἑαυτὸ οὐδέν ἐστιν, οὐδ’ ἄν τι προσείποις ὀρθῶς οὐδ’ ὁποιονοῦν τι, ἀλλ’ ἐὰν ὡς μέγα προσαγορεύῃς τι, καὶ μικρὸν φανεῖται, καὶ ἐὰν βαρύ τι, κοῦφον, ξύμπαντά τε οὕτως, ὡς μηδενὸς ὄντος ἑνὸς μήτε τινὸς μήτε ὁποιουοῦν· ἐκ δὲ δὴ φορᾶς τε καὶ κινήσεως καὶ κράσεως πρὸς ἄλληλα γίγνεται πάντα, ἃ δή φαμεν εἶναι, οὐκ ὀρθῶς προσαγορεύοντες· ἔστι μὲν γὰρ οὐδέποτε οὐδέν, ἀεὶ δὲ γίγνεται.

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Stobaeus, Volume I: Book I Chapter 19

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8 The same: From the Theaetetus

I.19.8

Tell me: do you call it motion when something passes from one place to another, or turns around in the same place?

I do.

Let this, then, be one kind. But when it remains in the same place and grows old, or changes from white to black, or from soft to hard, or undergoes some other alteration, ought we not to call that another kind of motion?

We certainly must.

I therefore distinguish these two kinds of motion: alteration, and revolution.553

9 In the same work: Being and becoming

I.19.9.1

I shall give an account that is far from trivial: nothing is one thing in itself, and you could not correctly call anything a definite thing or something of a definite quality. If you call something large, it will also appear small; if heavy, light; and so with everything, since nothing is one definite thing or has a definite quality. All things arise from locomotion, motion, and blending with one another. We wrongly speak of these things as “being”; for nothing ever is, but is always becoming.554

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Stobaeus gathered Greek philosophy and poetry for his son Septimius. Volume I presents the dedication testimony, On Arithmetic, Book I through chapter 60, and the ancient contents of all four books. This complete bilingual edition includes an introduction and 2,117 explanatory notes.

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