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Empedocles of Acragas

Empedocles’ The Testimonia, Volume II

The Greek and Latin of Hermann Diels · New English translation and notes.

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Perception and Thought · A 89 (continued)

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A 89 (continued)

Alexander of Aphrodisias, Questions

ἐπιζητήσαι δ' ἄν τις, εἰ καὶ συγχωρηθείη τὸ τῶν ἀπορροιῶν, τί δήποτε ὁ λίθος οὐχ ἕπεται ταῖς ἰδίαις ἀπορροίαις, κινεῖται δὲ πρὸς τὸν σίδηρον. οὐδὲν γὰρ μᾶλλον ἐκ τῶν εἰρημένων ἡ λίθος πρὸς τὸν σίδηρον ἢ ὁ σίδηρος κινηθήσεται πρὸς τὴν λίθον. ἔτι διὰ τί οὐ καὶ χωρὶς τῆς λίθου κινηθήσεταί ποτε σίδηρος ἐπ' ἄλλο τι τῶν ἀπ' αὐτοῦ ἀπορροιῶν ἀθρόων φερομένων. διὰ τί γὰρ μόναι αἱ ἀπὸ τῆς λίθου ἀπόρροιαι κινεῖν δύνανται τὸν ἐπιπωματίζοντα τοὺς τοῦ σιδήρου πόρους ἀέρα καὶ ἐπέχοντα τὰς ἀπορροίας; ἔτι διὰ τί ἄλλο οὐδὲν πρὸς ἄλλο τι οὕτω φέρεται, καίτοι πολλὰ λέγεται ὑπ' αὐτοῦ συμμέτρους τοὺς πόρους ταῖς ἀπορροίαις ἔχειν; λέγει γοῦν· ὕδωρ κτλ.

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Empedocles’ The Testimonia, Volume II: Perception and Thought

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A 89 (continued)

Alexander of Aphrodisias, Questions

But one might ask — even granting the doctrine of effluences — why on earth the stone does not follow its own effluences, whereas the iron moves toward it. For nothing in what has been said makes the stone move toward the iron any more than the iron toward the stone. Again, why does the iron not sometimes move toward something else, without the stone present, when its own effluences travel out in a mass? Why can the effluences of the stone alone move the air that caps the passages of the iron and holds the effluences back? And again, why does nothing else travel toward anything else in this way, although he says of many things that their passages are commensurate with the effluences? At any rate he says: "water …"

Report, very likely from a lost work of Theophrastus, with the reporter's own criticism.

This is the earliest surviving theory of magnetism, and it is an achievement of a particular kind: Empedocles refuses to treat attraction as a sympathy or an occult power and insists on a mechanism made of the same stuff as everything else. Alexander's four objections are all good ones, and the first is devastating — the account is symmetrical, and gives no reason why the iron should move rather than the stone. That difficulty would not be answered for two thousand years.

Bearing on Volume I. B 91, where oil and water are said not to mix, is the fragment Alexander cites; the pore doctrine is A 87.

25 ταύτης from the apographs: τούτου in V. — 34 αὐτῆς in V, corrected by Apelt. — 38 πρὸς ἄλληλα is deleted by Kranz; λέγεις in V, corrected by Spengel. The quotation is fragment B 91.

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About This Reading Edition

Empedocles survives not only through his poems but through the ancient writers who described his life, doctrines, medicine, cosmology, and extraordinary reputation. Volume II gathers the testimonia: ninety-nine numbered reports drawn from fifty-two authors across nine centuries. The English introduction appears full width; each Greek or Latin testimony then faces its new English translation.

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Historical Text and Translation

The Greek and Latin reading text follows Hermann Diels’s third edition of Die Fragmente der Vorsokratiker (1912), retaining the supplied edition’s Diels-Kranz numbering and editorial signs. These witnesses must be read as a chain of transmission: many preserve valuable evidence, while others summarize, dispute, reshape, or repeat earlier accounts.

About Diotimos Editions

Diotimos Editions prepared the new English translation, introduction, notes, and reception appendices for this volume. The translation keeps each witness distinct and preserves its technical vocabulary, argumentative posture, and relationship to the surviving poetry in Volume I.

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The ancient source works and Hermann Diels’s 1912 Greek and Latin edition are in the public domain. The 2026 English translation, introduction, notes, and editorial matter are original to this edition and remain © 2026 Diotimos.