Argument and qualification

Not yet and the stage of an argument

πω (pō)

The particle makes the statement local to a stage in Eryximachus’ exposition.

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Symposium

Plato · Diotimos Editions · 2026

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  • The wordThe particle makes the statement local to a stage in Eryximachus’ exposition.
  • In the SymposiumBefore turning to human application, the doctor says that distinguishing erotic relations in the construction of harmony and rhythm presents no difficulty and that double Love is not there yet.
  • In this editionBurnet prints Badham’s pō, “yet”; the reported main manuscripts have pōs, accented as “how”.
  • A place to readTechnical constitution precedes the problem of ethical application.

Meaning

The particle makes the statement local to a stage in Eryximachus’ exposition.

Use in the book

Before turning to human application, the doctor says that distinguishing erotic relations in the construction of harmony and rhythm presents no difficulty and that double Love is not there yet. The difficult distinction returns when music is composed for people or used educationally. Dropping “yet” makes him seem to contradict his extension of two Loves to music as a whole.

Places to read

  1. 187c–e2Technical constitution precedes the problem of ethical application.

Translation in this edition

Burnet prints Badham’s pō, “yet”; the reported main manuscripts have pōs, accented as “how”. The entry follows the continuous printed reading and marks its editorial basis.

πω (pō)

pō — Yet, an enclitic temporal particle whose negative setting marks a stage not so far reached, rather than a permanent absence.

  • 187c — οὐδὲ ὁ διπλοῦς ἔρως ἐνταῦθά πω ἔστιν. The double Love is not present yet in the bare constitution of harmony and rhythm.

Read: Not yet and the stage of an argument.