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Meidias

Μειδίαν (Meidian)

The Athenian named as a contemptible local political comparator and marked with the epithet “quail-tapper.”

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Alcibiades I

Plato · Diotimos Editions · 2026

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At a Glance

  • The wordThe Athenian named as a contemptible local political comparator and marked with the epithet “quail-tapper.”
  • In Alcibiades ISocrates has just argued that Alcibiades’ real contest is with Spartan and Persian rulers.
  • In this editionThe epithet is textually contested: Burnet prints ὀρτυγοκόπον against BT’s ὀρτυγοτρόφον.
  • A place to readMeidias heads the sarcastic alternative to preparation for serious rivals.

Meaning

The Athenian named as a contemptible local political comparator and marked with the epithet “quail-tapper.”

Use in the book

Socrates has just argued that Alcibiades’ real contest is with Spartan and Persian rulers. He then reverses into transparent mock advice: of course Alcibiades should look instead to Meidias and similar men, neglect himself and enter politics unprepared. The surrounding depiction of uncultured flatterers makes the irony unmistakable. Meidias is neither a teacher nor an interlocutor. His value as an example lies precisely in the discrepancy between the young aristocrat’s grand ambitions and his readiness to measure himself against a locally unimpressive standard.

Places to read

  1. 120a–120cMeidias heads the sarcastic alternative to preparation for serious rivals.

Translation in this edition

The epithet is textually contested: Burnet prints ὀρτυγοκόπον against BT’s ὀρτυγοτρόφον. The edition’s comedy and game references belong to its explanatory note; see Quail-tapping for the lexical difference.

Μειδίας

Attested: Μειδίαν (meidian; 120a). Meidias, the local politician used as a derisively small standard of rivalry. Lexical identification: lemma: Μειδίας. See Meidias.