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Symposium · 213e–214d
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p. 118Ἀγάθων, εἴ τι ἔστιν ἔκπωμα μέγα. μᾶλλον δὲ οὐδὲν δεῖ, ἀλλὰ φέρε, παῖ, φάναι, τὸν ψυκτῆρα ἐκεῖνον, ἰδόντα αὐτὸν 214a πλέον ἢ ὀκτὼ κοτύλας χωροῦντα. τοῦτον ἐμπλησάμενον πρῶτον μὲν αὐτὸν ἐκπιεῖν, ἔπειτα τῷ Σωκράτει κελεύειν ἐγχεῖν καὶ ἅμα εἰπεῖν· Πρὸς μὲν Σωκράτη, ὦ ἄνδρες, τὸ σόφισμά μοι οὐδέν· ὁπόσον γὰρ ἂν κελεύῃ τις, τοσοῦτον ἐκπιὼν οὐδὲν μᾶλλον μή ποτε μεθυσθῇ.
Τὸν μὲν οὖν Σωκράτη ἐγχέαντος τοῦ παιδὸς πίνειν· τὸν δ’ Ἐρυξίμαχον Πῶς οὖν, φάναι, ὦ Ἀλκιβιάδη, ποιοῦμεν; 214b οὕτως οὔτε τι λέγομεν ἐπὶ τῇ κύλικι οὔτε τι ᾄδομεν, ἀλλ’ ἀτεχνῶς ὥσπερ οἱ διψῶντες πιόμεθα;
Τὸν οὖν Ἀλκιβιάδην εἰπεῖν Ὦ Ἐρυξίμαχε, βέλτιστε βελτίστου πατρὸς καὶ σωφρονεστάτου, χαῖρε.
Καὶ γὰρ σύ, φάναι τὸν Ἐρυξίμαχον· ἀλλὰ τί ποιῶμεν;
Ὅτι ἂν σὺ κελεύῃς. δεῖ γάρ σοι πείθεσθαι·
ἰητρὸς γὰρ ἀνὴρ πολλῶν ἀντάξιος ἄλλων·ἐπίταττε οὖν ὅτι βούλει.
Ἄκουσον δή, εἰπεῖν τὸν Ἐρυξίμαχον. ἡμῖν πρὶν σὲ εἰσελθεῖν ἔδοξε χρῆναι ἐπὶ δεξιὰ ἕκαστον ἐν μέρει λόγον 214c περὶ Ἔρωτος εἰπεῖν ὡς δύναιτο κάλλιστον, καὶ ἐγκωμιάσαι. οἱ μὲν οὖν ἄλλοι πάντες ἡμεῖς εἰρήκαμεν· σὺ δ’ ἐπειδὴ οὐκ εἴρηκας καὶ ἐκπέπωκας, δίκαιος εἶ εἰπεῖν, εἰπὼν δὲ ἐπιτάξαι Σωκράτει ὅτι ἂν βούλῃ, καὶ τοῦτον τῷ ἐπὶ δεξιὰ καὶ οὕτω τοὺς ἄλλους.
Ἀλλά, φάναι, ὦ Ἐρυξίμαχε, τὸν Ἀλκιβιάδην, καλῶς μὲν λέγεις, μεθύοντα δὲ ἄνδρα παρὰ νηφόντων λόγους παραβάλλειν μὴ οὐκ ἐξ ἴσου ᾖ. καὶ ἅμα, ὦ μακάριε, πείθει τί 214d σε Σωκράτης ὧν ἄρτι εἶπεν; ἢ οἶσθα ὅτι τοὐναντίον ἐστὶ πᾶν ἢ ὃ ἔλεγεν; οὗτος γάρ, ἐάν τινα ἐγὼ ἐπαινέσω τούτου
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p. 119Agathon, if there is any large cup. Or rather, there is no need; but bring, boy,” he said, “that wine-cooler,” having seen that it 214a held more than eight kotylai.1 Having filled this, he first drank it off himself, then told the slave to pour for Socrates, and at the same time said, “Against Socrates, gentlemen, my trick is nothing; for however much anyone tells him to drink, drinking off just so much he will never be any the more drunk.”
So when the slave had poured, Socrates drank; and Eryximachus said, “How then, Alcibiades, are we behaving? 214b Are we thus neither to say anything over the cup nor to sing anything, but simply drink like the thirsty?”
So Alcibiades said, “Eryximachus, most excellent son of a most excellent and most temperate father, greetings!”
“And to you,” said Eryximachus; “but what are we to do?”
“Whatever you tell us. For you must be obeyed:
for a doctor is a man worth many others;2
so order whatever you want.”
“Listen, then,” said Eryximachus. “Before you came in, we resolved that each of us, going to the right, must 214c make a speech about Love in turn, the most beautiful he could, and make an encomium of him. Now all the rest of us have spoken; but since you have not spoken and have drunk off your cup, it is just that you should speak, and when you have spoken, give Socrates whatever order you want, and he the man on his right, and so on with the others.”
“Well, Eryximachus,” said Alcibiades, “you speak well; but for a drunk man to set his speeches beside those of the sober may not be on equal terms. And at the same time, you blessed man, does 214d Socrates persuade you of anything he said just now? Or do you know that it is all the opposite of what he was saying? For this man, if I praise anyone while he is
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The complete Symposium, 172a–223d: at Agathon’s banquet the guests praise Love, Socrates recounts Diotima’s teaching, and Alcibiades praises Socrates. Burnet’s Greek faces a new Diotimos Editions English translation, with an introduction, key words, outline, glossary, critical apparatus, and linked translator notes.
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Greek: Plato, Symposium, in John Burnet, Platonis Opera, volume II (Oxford, 1901; second edition, 1910), in a later impression printed by John Johnson and issued by Humphrey Milford no earlier than January 1935, as described by the supplied edition. Its Greek was taken from the Perseus Digital Library transcription and checked against photographs of that impression; Burnet’s readings and critical apparatus are retained. The digital Greek transcription and its modifications are attributed to the Perseus Digital Library, Tufts University, under CC BY-SA 4.0. English translation and editorial matter: Diotimos Editions, 2026.
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