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Symposium · 202a–202d
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p. 84Τὸ ὀρθὰ δοξάζειν καὶ ἄνευ τοῦ ἔχειν λόγον δοῦναι οὐκ οἶσθ’, ἔφη, ὅτι οὔτε ἐπίστασθαί ἐστιν—ἄλογον γὰρ πρᾶγμα πῶς ἂν εἴη ἐπιστήμη;—οὔτε ἀμαθία—τὸ γὰρ τοῦ ὄντος τυγχάνον πῶς ἂν εἴη ἀμαθία;—ἔστι δὲ δήπου τοιοῦτον ἡ ὀρθὴ δόξα, μεταξὺ φρονήσεως καὶ ἀμαθίας.
Ἀληθῆ, ἦν δ’ ἐγώ, λέγεις.
202bΜὴ τοίνυν ἀνάγκαζε ὃ μὴ καλόν ἐστιν αἰσχρὸν εἶναι, μηδὲ ὃ μὴ ἀγαθόν, κακόν. οὕτω δὲ καὶ τὸν Ἔρωτα ἐπειδὴ αὐτὸς ὁμολογεῖς μὴ εἶναι ἀγαθὸν μηδὲ καλόν, μηδέν τι μᾶλλον οἴου δεῖν αὐτὸν αἰσχρὸν καὶ κακὸν εἶναι, ἀλλά τι μεταξύ, ἔφη, τούτοιν.
Καὶ μήν, ἦν δ’ ἐγώ, ὁμολογεῖταί γε παρὰ πάντων μέγας θεὸς εἶναι.
Τῶν μὴ εἰδότων, ἔφη, πάντων λέγεις, ἢ καὶ τῶν εἰδότων;
Συμπάντων μὲν οὖν.
Καὶ ἣ γελάσασα Καὶ πῶς ἄν, ἔφη, ὦ Σώκρατες, 202c ὁμολογοῖτο μέγας θεὸς εἶναι παρὰ τούτων, οἵ φασιν αὐτὸν οὐδὲ θεὸν εἶναι;
Τίνες οὗτοι; ἦν δ’ ἐγώ.
Εἷς μέν, ἔφη, σύ, μία δ’ ἐγώ.
Κἀγὼ εἶπον, Πῶς τοῦτο, ἔφην, λέγεις;
Καὶ ἥ, Ῥᾳδίως, ἔφη. λέγε γάρ μοι, οὐ πάντας θεοὺς φῂς εὐδαίμονας εἶναι καὶ καλούς; ἢ τολμήσαις ἄν τινα μὴ φάναι καλόν τε καὶ εὐδαίμονα θεῶν εἶναι;
Μὰ Δί’ οὐκ ἔγωγ’, ἔφην.
Εὐδαίμονας δὲ δὴ λέγεις οὐ τοὺς τἀγαθὰ καὶ τὰ καλὰ κεκτημένους;
Πάνυ γε.
202dἈλλὰ μὴν Ἔρωτά γε ὡμολόγηκας δι’ ἔνδειαν τῶν
Symposium
p. 85“‘Holding right opinions even without being able to give an account — do you not know,’ she said, ‘that it is neither knowing — for how could a thing without an account be knowledge? — nor ignorance — for how could what hits upon what is be ignorance? — but right opinion is, surely, something of this kind, between intelligence and ignorance.’1
“‘What you say is true,’ I said.
202b“‘Then do not compel what is not beautiful to be ugly, nor what is not good to be bad. So too with Love: since you yourself agree that he is neither good nor beautiful, do not think any the more that he must be ugly and bad, but something,’ she said, ‘between these two.’
“‘And yet,’ I said, ‘it is agreed by everyone that he is a great god.’
“‘By all who do not know, do you mean,’ she said, ‘or by those who know as well?’
“‘By all together, of course.’
“And she laughed and said, ‘And how, Socrates, could he 202c be agreed to be a great god by those who say he is not even a god?’
“‘Who are these?’ I said.
“‘One is you,’ she said, ‘and one is I.’
“And I said, ‘How do you mean this?’ I said.
“And she said, ‘Easily. For tell me, do you not say that all gods are happy and beautiful? Or would you dare to say that any one of the gods is not beautiful and happy?’
“‘By Zeus, not I,’ I said.
“‘And do you not call happy those who possess good things and beautiful things?’
“‘Certainly.’
202d“’But you have agreed that Love, through lack of the
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The complete Symposium, 172a–223d: at Agathon’s banquet the guests praise Love, Socrates recounts Diotima’s teaching, and Alcibiades praises Socrates. Burnet’s Greek faces a new Diotimos Editions English translation, with an introduction, key words, outline, glossary, critical apparatus, and linked translator notes.
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Greek: Plato, Symposium, in John Burnet, Platonis Opera, volume II (Oxford, 1901; second edition, 1910), in a later impression printed by John Johnson and issued by Humphrey Milford no earlier than January 1935, as described by the supplied edition. Its Greek was taken from the Perseus Digital Library transcription and checked against photographs of that impression; Burnet’s readings and critical apparatus are retained. The digital Greek transcription and its modifications are attributed to the Perseus Digital Library, Tufts University, under CC BY-SA 4.0. English translation and editorial matter: Diotimos Editions, 2026.
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