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Symposium · 177d–178b

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Φαῖδρον πρῶτον, ἐπειδὴ καὶ πρῶτος κατάκειται καὶ ἔστιν ἅμα πατὴρ τοῦ λόγου.

Οὐδείς σοι, ὦ Ἐρυξίμαχε, φάναι τὸν Σωκράτη, ἐναντία ψηφιεῖται. οὔτε γὰρ ἄν που ἐγὼ ἀποφήσαιμι, ὃς οὐδέν φημι ἄλλο ἐπίστασθαι ἢ τὰ ἐρωτικά, οὔτε που Ἀγάθων καὶ 177e Παυσανίας, οὐδὲ μὴν Ἀριστοφάνης, ᾧ περὶ Διόνυσον καὶ Ἀφροδίτην πᾶσα ἡ διατριβή, οὐδὲ ἄλλος οὐδεὶς τουτωνὶ ὧν ἐγὼ ὁρῶ. καίτοι οὐκ ἐξ ἴσου γίγνεται ἡμῖν τοῖς ὑστάτοις κατακειμένοις· ἀλλ’ ἐὰν οἱ πρόσθεν ἱκανῶς καὶ καλῶς εἴπωσιν, ἐξαρκέσει ἡμῖν. ἀλλὰ τύχῃ ἀγαθῇ καταρχέτω Φαῖδρος καὶ ἐγκωμιαζέτω τὸν Ἔρωτα.

Ταῦτα δὴ καὶ οἱ ἄλλοι πάντες ἄρα συνέφασάν τε καὶ 178a ἐκέλευον ἅπερ ὁ Σωκράτης. πάντων μὲν οὖν ἃ ἕκαστος εἶπεν, οὔτε πάνυ ὁ Ἀριστόδημος ἐμέμνητο οὔτ’ αὖ ἐγὼ ἃ ἐκεῖνος ἔλεγε πάντα· ἃ δὲ μάλιστα καὶ ὧν ἔδοξέ μοι ἀξιομνημόνευτον, τούτων ὑμῖν ἐρῶ ἑκάστου τὸν λόγον.

Πρῶτον μὲν γάρ, ὥσπερ λέγω, ἔφη Φαῖδρον ἀρξάμενον ἐνθένδε ποθὲν λέγειν, ὅτι μέγας θεὸς εἴη ὁ Ἔρως καὶ θαυμαστὸς ἐν ἀνθρώποις τε καὶ θεοῖς, πολλαχῇ μὲν καὶ ἄλλῃ, οὐχ ἥκιστα δὲ κατὰ τὴν γένεσιν. τὸ γὰρ ἐν τοῖς πρεσβύ178bτατον εἶναι τὸν θεὸν τίμιον, ἦ δ’ ὅς, τεκμήριον δὲ τούτου· γονῆς γὰρ Ἔρωτος οὔτ’ εἰσὶν οὔτε λέγονται ὑπ’ οὐδενὸς οὔτε ἰδιώτου οὔτε ποιητοῦ, ἀλλ’ Ἡσίοδος πρῶτον μὲν Χάος φησὶ γενέσθαι—

            αὐτὰρ ἔπειταΓαῖ’ εὐρύστερνος, πάντων ἕδος ἀσφαλὲς αἰεί,ἠδ’ Ἔρος
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first, since he is reclining first and is at the same time the father of the speech.”

“No one, Eryximachus,” said Socrates, “will cast a vote against you. For neither, I take it, would I refuse, who say I know nothing other than matters of love,1 nor, I take it, Agathon and 177e Pausanias, nor indeed Aristophanes, whose whole pastime is with Dionysus and Aphrodite, nor anyone else of these whom I see. And yet it does not turn out on equal terms for us who recline last; but if those before us speak sufficiently and well, it will be enough for us. But with good fortune let Phaedrus begin, and make an encomium of Love.”

To this, then, all the others too concurred, and 178a urged just what Socrates did. Now Aristodemus did not altogether remember all that each one said, nor again do I remember all that he told; but what, and whose, seemed to me most worth remembering, of these I shall tell you each one’s speech.

For first, as I say, he said that Phaedrus began his speech from somewhere about here: that Love was a great god, and marvellous among human beings and gods, in many other ways and not least in his birth. “For 178b to be among the very oldest is an honour for the god,”2 he said, “and here is a piece of evidence for it: Love has no parents, nor are any spoken of by anyone, private person or poet, but Hesiod says that first Chaos came to be —

but then broad-breasted Earth, the ever-safe seat of all things, and Love.3

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About This Reading Edition

The complete Symposium, 172a–223d: at Agathon’s banquet the guests praise Love, Socrates recounts Diotima’s teaching, and Alcibiades praises Socrates. Burnet’s Greek faces a new Diotimos Editions English translation, with an introduction, key words, outline, glossary, critical apparatus, and linked translator notes.

Historical Text and Translation

Greek: Plato, Symposium, in John Burnet, Platonis Opera, volume II (Oxford, 1901; second edition, 1910), in a later impression printed by John Johnson and issued by Humphrey Milford no earlier than January 1935, as described by the supplied edition. Its Greek was taken from the Perseus Digital Library transcription and checked against photographs of that impression; Burnet’s readings and critical apparatus are retained. The digital Greek transcription and its modifications are attributed to the Perseus Digital Library, Tufts University, under CC BY-SA 4.0. English translation and editorial matter: Diotimos Editions, 2026.

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This historical edition credits Diotimos Editions as its English translator.

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The ancient Greek work and Burnet’s printed edition are in the public domain. The Perseus digital Greek transcription and its modifications are reused under CC BY-SA 4.0, as verified from the official Perseus repository license. The supplied edition reports checking its transcription against Burnet’s printed pages. The new English translation and editorial matter are credited to Diotimos Editions, 2026; no open license for those new contributions is stated in the supplied files.