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John Stobaeus

Stobaeus, Volume II

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Book II Chapter 31 · II.31.123.1

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Μουσωνίου ἐκ τοῦ Εἰ παραπλησίως παιδευτέον τὰς θυγατέρας τοῖς υἱοῖς

II.31.123.1

Λόγου δέ ποτε τινὸς ἐμπεσόντος, εἰ τὴν αὐτὴν παιδείαν παιδευτέον τοὺς υἱέας καὶ τὰς θυγατέρας· Ἵππους μὲν, ἔφη, καὶ κύνας ὁμοῦ οὐδὲν διαφερόντως παιδεύουσιν οἵ τε ἱππικοὶ καὶ οἱ κυνηγετικοὶ τοὺς ἄρρενας τῶν θηλειῶν· ἀλλ’ αἵ τε κύνες αἱ θήλειαι παραπλησίως τοῖς ἄρρεσι διδάσκονται θηρᾶν· ἵππους τε θηλείας ἄν τις θέλῃ τὰ ἵππων ἔργα ἀποτελεῖν καλῶς, οὐ διάφορον τῶν ἀρρένων διδασκαλίαν διδασκομένας ἰδεῖν ἔστιν· ἀνθρώπους δὲ τοὺς ἄρρενας ἐξαίρετόν τι ἄρα δεήσει ἔχειν ἐν τῇ παιδείᾳ καὶ τροφῇ παρὰ τὰς θηλείας, ὥσπερ οὐχὶ τὰς αὐτὰς παραγίνεσθαι δέον ἀρετὰς ἀμφοῖν ὁμοίως ἀνδρὶ καὶ γυναικί, ἢ ἐπὶ τὰς αὐτὰς ἀρετὰς μὴ διὰ τῶν αὐτῶν παιδευμάτων ἀλλὰ δι’ ἑτέρων οἷόν τε ὂν ἐλθεῖν.

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Stobaeus, Volume II: Book II Chapter 31

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Musonius, Whether Daughters Should Be Educated Like Sons

II.31.123.1

Once, when discussion arose whether sons and daughters should receive the same education, he said:1334 Trainers of horses and hunting dogs train males no differently from females. Female dogs are taught to hunt just like males; and if one wants mares to perform horses’ tasks well, one sees them receiving no different instruction from male horses.1335 Yet male human beings, then, will need something special in their education and upbringing in comparison with females—as though the same virtues did not need to come equally to both man and woman, or as though the same virtues could be reached through different forms of education rather than the same ones.1336

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About This Reading Edition

The complete surviving text of Stobaeus’s second book, through II.46.22, in Ancient Greek and English, with an introduction and 1,541 explanatory notes. All forty-six chapter headings remain, including the notices for chapters whose texts are missing.

Historical Text and Translation

Greek: Curt Wachsmuth, Ioannis Stobaei Anthologii libri duo priores, volumen II (Berlin: Weidmann, 1884), printed p. 1 and pp. 3–264. The supplied edition preserves consequential editorial signs, reconstructed joins, qualified attributions, and missing-text notices. English translation, introduction, and explanatory notes: Diotimos Editions, 2026.

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This historical edition credits Diotimos Editions as its English translator.

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Stobaeus’s ancient Greek work and Wachsmuth’s 1884 edition are in the public domain. The supplied English translation, introduction, and explanatory notes are published with the site owner’s authorization.