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John Stobaeus

Stobaeus, Volume II

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Book II Chapter 3 · II.3.2–II.3.3a

Ancient Greek

p. 72

Πλάτωνος ἐκ τοῦ Γοργίου

II.3.2

Νῦν μοι δοκεῖς δηλῶσαι, ὦ Γοργία, ἐγγύτατα, τὴν ῥητορικὴν ἥντινα τέχνην ἡγῇ εἶναι, καὶ εἴ τι ἐγὼ συνίημι, λέγεις ὅτι πειθοῦς δημιουργός ἐστιν ἡ ῥητορική, καὶ ἡ πραγματεία αὐτῆς ἅπασα καὶ τὸ κεφάλαιον εἰς τοῦτο τελευτᾷ. Ἢ ἔχεις τι λέγειν ἐπὶ πλέον τὴν ῥητορικὴν δύνασθαι, ἢ πειθὼ τοῖς ἀκούουσιν ἐν τῇ ψυχῇ ποιεῖν;

— Οὐδαμῶς, ὦ Σώκρατες, ἀλλά μοι δοκεῖς ἱκανῶς ὁρίσασθαι.

Πλάτωνος

II.3.3a
ἂν γὰρ ἀποθάνῃ εἷς τις πονηρός, δύ’ ἀνέφυσαν ῥήτορες· οὐδεὶς γὰρ ἡμῖν Ἰόλεως ἐν τῇ πόλει, ὅστις ἐπικαύσει τὰς κεφαλὰς τῶν ῥητόρων.
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Stobaeus, Volume II: Book II Chapter 3

p. 73

Plato from the Gorgias

II.3.2

“Now, Gorgias, you seem to me to have explained very nearly what sort of art you take rhetoric to be. If I understand you at all, you say that rhetoric is a maker of persuasion, and that its entire activity and its chief purpose come to this. Or can you say that rhetoric has any further power beyond producing persuasion in the souls of its hearers?”93

“Not at all, Socrates; you seem to me to have defined it adequately.”

Plato the comic poet

II.3.3a

For if one scoundrel dies, two orators spring up. There is no Iolaus in our city to burn away the orators’ heads.94

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About This Reading Edition

The complete surviving text of Stobaeus’s second book, through II.46.22, in Ancient Greek and English, with an introduction and 1,541 explanatory notes. All forty-six chapter headings remain, including the notices for chapters whose texts are missing.

Historical Text and Translation

Greek: Curt Wachsmuth, Ioannis Stobaei Anthologii libri duo priores, volumen II (Berlin: Weidmann, 1884), printed p. 1 and pp. 3–264. The supplied edition preserves consequential editorial signs, reconstructed joins, qualified attributions, and missing-text notices. English translation, introduction, and explanatory notes: Diotimos Editions, 2026.

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Stobaeus’s ancient Greek work and Wachsmuth’s 1884 edition are in the public domain. The supplied English translation, introduction, and explanatory notes are published with the site owner’s authorization.