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Stobaeus, Volume II
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Book II Chapter 3 · II.3.heading–II.3.1
Ancient Greek
p. 70Κεφάλαιον Γʹ
⟨Περὶ ῥητορικῆς⟩
Πλάτωνος ἐκ τοῦ Ἀλκιβιάδου βʹ
Ποίαν οὖν οἴει πολιτείαν εἶναι τοξοτῶν τε ἀγαθῶν καὶ αὐλητῶν, ἔτι δὲ καὶ ἀθλητῶν τε καὶ τῶν ἄλλων τεχνιτῶν, ἀναμεμιγμένων ἐν τούτοις οὓς ἄρτι εἰρήκαμεν, τῶν τε αὐτὸ τὸ πολεμεῖν εἰδότων καὶ αὐτὸ τὸ ἀποκτεινύναι, πρὸς δὲ καὶ ἀνδρῶν ῥητορικῶν πολιτικὸν φύσημα φυσώντων, ἁπάντων δὲ τούτων ὄντων ἄνευ τῆς τοῦ βελτίστου ἐπιστήμης καὶ τοῦ εἰδότος ὁπότε βέλτιστον ἑνὶ ἑκάστῳ τούτων χρῆσασθαι καὶ πρὸς τίνα;
— Φαύλην τινὰ ἔγωγε, ὦ Σώκρατες.
Stobaeus, Volume II: Book II Chapter 3
p. 71Chapter 3
⟨On Rhetoric⟩91
Plato from Alcibiades II
“What sort of state, then, do you think there would be, consisting of good archers and flute players, and also athletes and other skilled practitioners, with those we just mentioned mixed among them—people who know warfare itself and killing itself—and, besides these, rhetorical men puffing out political bluster, if all of them lacked knowledge of what is best, and lacked anyone who knew when it was best to employ each of these skills and against whom?”92
“A poor sort of state, I should say, Socrates.”
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The complete surviving text of Stobaeus’s second book, through II.46.22, in Ancient Greek and English, with an introduction and 1,541 explanatory notes. All forty-six chapter headings remain, including the notices for chapters whose texts are missing.
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Greek: Curt Wachsmuth, Ioannis Stobaei Anthologii libri duo priores, volumen II (Berlin: Weidmann, 1884), printed p. 1 and pp. 3–264. The supplied edition preserves consequential editorial signs, reconstructed joins, qualified attributions, and missing-text notices. English translation, introduction, and explanatory notes: Diotimos Editions, 2026.
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