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Stobaeus, Volume II
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Book II Chapter 2 · II.2.20–II.2.23
Ancient Greek
p. 66Καρνεάδου
Καρνεάδης τὴν διαλεκτικὴν ἔλεγε πουλύποδι ἐοικέναι· καὶ γὰρ ἐκεῖνον αὐξηθείσας τὰς πλεκτάνας κατεσθίειν, καὶ τούτους προϊούσης τῆς δυνάμεως καὶ τὰ σφέτερα ἀνατρέπειν.
Κλειτομάχου
Κλειτόμαχος εἴκαζε τὴν διαλεκτικὴν τῇ σελήνῃ· καὶ γὰρ ταύτην οὐ παύεσθαι φθίνουσαν καὶ αὐξομένην.
Ἀρίστωνος
Ἀρίστων τοὺς λόγους τῶν διαλεκτικῶν εἴκαζεν τοῖς τῶν ἀραχνίων ὑφάσμασιν οὐδὲν μὲν χρησίμοις, λίαν δὲ τεχνικοῖς.
Ἐκ τῶν Ἀρίστωνος Ὁμοιωμάτων
Ὁ ἐλλέβορος ὁλοσχερέστερος μὲν ληφθεὶς καθαίρει, εἰς δὲ πάνυ σμικρὰ τριφθεὶς πνίγει· οὕτω καὶ ἡ κατὰ φιλοσοφίαν λεπτολογία.
Stobaeus, Volume II: Book II Chapter 2
p. 67Carneades
Carneades said that dialectic resembles an octopus: the octopus eats its tentacles when they have grown, and dialecticians, as their ability develops, overturn their own arguments as well.83
Clitomachus
Clitomachus compared dialectic to the moon: it too never ceases to wane and wax.84
Ariston
Ariston compared the arguments of dialecticians to spiders’ webs: useful for nothing, but exceedingly skillfully made.85
From Ariston’s Comparisons
Hellebore, taken in a coarser form, purges; ground into very fine particles, it chokes. So too with excessive subtlety in philosophy.86
Socrates
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The complete surviving text of Stobaeus’s second book, through II.46.22, in Ancient Greek and English, with an introduction and 1,541 explanatory notes. All forty-six chapter headings remain, including the notices for chapters whose texts are missing.
Historical Text and Translation
Greek: Curt Wachsmuth, Ioannis Stobaei Anthologii libri duo priores, volumen II (Berlin: Weidmann, 1884), printed p. 1 and pp. 3–264. The supplied edition preserves consequential editorial signs, reconstructed joins, qualified attributions, and missing-text notices. English translation, introduction, and explanatory notes: Diotimos Editions, 2026.
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