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Book I Chapter 50 · I.50.37.4–I.50.37.5
Ancient Greek
p. 161037.4
ἢ σὺ διισχυρίσαι᾽ ἂν ὡς οἷον σοὶ φαίνεται ἕκαστον χρῶμα, τοιοῦτον καὶ κυνὶ καὶ ὁτῳοῦν ζῴῳ;
Μὰ Δί᾽ οὐκ ἔγωγε.
Τί; ἄλλῳ ἀνθρώπῳ ἆρ᾽ ὅμοιον καὶ σοὶ φαίνεται ὁτιοῦν, ἔχεις τοῦτο ἰσχυρῶς, ἢ πολὺ μᾶλλον, ὅτι οὐδὲ σοὶ ταὐτὸν διὰ τὸ μηδέποτε ὁμοίως αὐτὸν σεαυτῷ ἔχειν;
Τοῦτο μᾶλλον δοκεῖ μοι ἢ ἐκεῖνο.
37.5
Οὐκοῦν εἰ μὲν ᾧ παραμετρούμεθα, ἢ οὗ ἐφαπτόμεθα, μέγα ἢ λευκὸν ἢ θερμὸν ἦν, οὐκ ἄν ποτε ἄλλῳ προσπεσὸν ἄλλο ἂν ἐγεγόνει, αὐτό γε μηδὲν μεταβάλλον· εἰ δ᾽ αὖ τὸ παραμετρούμενον ἢ τὸ ἐφαπτόμενον ἕκαστον ἦν τούτων, οὐκ ἂν αὖ ἄλλου προσελθόντος ἤ τι παθόντος αὐτὸ μηδὲν παθὸν ἂν ἄλλο ἐγένετο.
Stobaeus, Volume I: Book I Chapter 50
p. 161137.4 · Different perceivers and changing appearances
“Or would you insist that each color appears to a dog or any other animal just as it appears to you?”
“By Zeus, I certainly would not.”
“Well, are you firmly convinced that anything appears the same to another person as to you? Or is it much more the case that it does not appear the same even to you, since you yourself are never in exactly the same condition?”
“The latter seems more likely to me than the former.”1955
37.5 · Qualities and changing relations
“Then if that against which we measure ourselves, or which we touch, were large or white or hot, it would never have become something different by encountering something else while itself undergoing no change. And if, in turn, the thing measuring itself or doing the touching were any of these, it would not itself become different without undergoing anything merely because something else approached or was affected in some way.”1956
Socrates
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