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Book I Chapter 49 · I.49.31.1–I.49.31.2
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p. 114231.1 · Ἐν ταὐτῷ
Ἐν ταὐτῷ.
Ἆρ᾽ οὖν ἕτερον ὂν καὶ τούτου, ἢ λογιστικόν τι εἶδος, ὥστε μὴ τρία ἀλλὰ δύο εἴδη εἶναι ἐν ψυχῇ, λογιστικὸν καὶ ἐπιθυμητικόν; ἢ καθάπερ ἐν τῇ πόλει ξυνεῖχεν αὐτὴν τρία ὄντα γένη, χρηματιστικόν, ἐπικουρητικόν, βουλευτικόν, οὕτω καὶ ἐν ψυχῇ τρίτον τοῦτό ἐστι τὸ θυμοειδές, ἐπίκουρον ὂν τῷ λογιστικῷ φύσει, ἐὰν μὴ ὑπὸ κακῆς τροφῆς διαφθαρῇ; - Ἀνάγκη, ἔφη, τρίτον. - Ναί, ἦν δ᾽ ἐγώ, ἄν γε τοῦ λογιστικοῦ ἄλλο τι, ὥσπερ τοῦ ἐπιθυμητικοῦ ἐφάνη ἕτερον ὄν.
31.2
Ἀλλ᾽ οὐ χαλεπόν, ἔφη, φανῆναι· καὶ γὰρ ἐν τοῖς παιδίοις τοῦτο [οὖ] ἄν τις ἴδοι, ὅτι θυμοῦ μὲν εὐθὺς γενόμενα μεστά ἐστι, λογισμοῦ δὲ ἔνιοι μὲν ἔμοιγε δοκοῦσιν οὐδέποτέ γε μεταλαμβάνειν, οἱ δὲ πολλοὶ ὀψέ ποτε. - Ναὶ μὰ Δί᾽, ἦν δ᾽ ἐγώ, καλῶς γε εἶπες. Ἔτι δὲ ἐν τοῖς θηρίοις ἄν τις ἴδοι ὃ λέγεις, ὅτι οὕτως ἔχει. Πρὸς δὲ τούτοις καὶ ὃ ἄνω που ἐκεῖ εἴπομεν, τὸ τοῦ Ὁμήρου μαρτυρήσει, τὸ
Stobaeus, Volume I: Book I Chapter 49
p. 114331.1 · Spirit as the natural ally of reason
In the same work.
“Is it, then, different from this too, or is it a kind of rational element, so that there are not three kinds in soul but two, the rational and the appetitive? Or, just as three classes held the city together, the money-making, the auxiliary, and the deliberative, is this spirited element likewise a third in soul, naturally an ally of the rational, unless corrupted by a bad upbringing?”
“It must be a third,” he said.
“Yes,” I said, “if it is indeed different from the rational element, just as it has been shown to differ from the appetitive.”1409
31.2 · Children and animals
“But that is not difficult to show,” he said. “One could see it even in children [not]: from birth they are full of spirit, while some, it seems to me, never partake of reasoning, and most do so only late.”
“Yes, by Zeus,” I said, “well said. One could also see in animals that what you say is so. In addition, the words of Homer that we quoted somewhere above will bear witness:1410
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