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Book I Chapter 47 · I.47.14.3–I.47.14.4
Ancient Greek
p. 94414.3
Τὸ τοίνυν λεληθέναι μηδαμῶς ὑπολάβῃς, ὡς λέγω λήθης ἐνταῦθά που γένεσιν. Ἔστι γὰρ λήθη μνήμης ἔξοδος, ἡ δ᾽ ἐν τῷ λεγομένῳ νῦν οὔπω γέγονε· τοῦ δὲ μήτε ὄντος μήτε γεγονότος πω γίγνεσθαι φάναι τινὰ ἀποβολὴν ἄτοπον. Ἦ γάρ;
Τί μήν;
Τὰ τοίνυν ὀνόματα μετάβαλε μόνον.
Πῶς;
Ἀντὶ τοῦ λεληθέναι τὴν ψυχήν, ὅταν ἀπαθὴς αὕτη γίγνηται τῶν σεισμῶν τῶν τοῦ σώματος, ἣν νῦν λήθην καλεῖς, ἀναισθησίαν ἐπονόμασον.
Ἔμαθον.
14.4
Τὸ δ᾽ ἐν ἑνὶ πάθει τὴν ψυχὴν καὶ τὸ σῶμα κοινῇ γιγνόμενον κοινῇ καὶ κινεῖσθαι, ταύτην δὴ τὴν κίνησιν ὀνομάζων αἴσθησιν οὐκ ἀπὸ τρόπου φθέγγου ἄν.
Ἀληθέστατα λέγεις.
Οὐκοῦν ἤδη μανθάνομεν ὃ βουλόμεθα καλεῖν τὴν αἴσθησιν;
Stobaeus, Volume I: Book I Chapter 47
p. 94514.3 · Being unnoticed is not forgetting
“But do not take my saying ‘to have escaped notice’ as though I were speaking of the occurrence of forgetting. Forgetting is the departure of memory, whereas in the case now under discussion memory has not yet arisen. It is absurd to speak of losing something that neither exists nor has yet come into existence. Is it not?”
“Certainly.”
“Then change only the terms.”
“How?”
“Instead of saying that something has escaped the soul’s notice when the soul is unaffected by the body’s shakings, call what you now name ‘forgetting’ ‘absence of sensation.’”
“I understand.”1213
14.4 · A shared movement
“When soul and body are jointly involved in a single affection and are jointly moved, you would speak appropriately by calling this movement sensation.”
“What you say is entirely true.”
“Do we now understand, then, what we mean to call sensation?”1214
Socrates
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