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John Stobaeus

Stobaeus, Volume I

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Book I Chapter 47 · I.47.10–I.47.11.1

Ancient Greek

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10 · Πλάτωνος

I.47.10

Πλάτωνος Πολιτείας δʹ.

Ἆρ᾽ οὖν ἡμῖν, ἦν δ᾽ ἐγώ, πολλὴ ἀνάγκη ὁμολογεῖν ὅτι γε τὰ αὐτὰ ἐν ἑκάστῳ ἔνεστιν ἡμῶν εἴδη τε καὶ ἤθη ἅπερ ἐν τῇ πόλει; οὐ γάρ που ἄλλοθεν ἐκεῖσε ἀφῖκται. Γελοῖον γὰρ ἂν εἴη, εἴ τις οἰηθείη τὸ θυμοειδὲς μὴ ἐκ τῶν ἰδιωτῶν ἐν ταῖς πόλεσιν ἐγγεγονέναι, οἳ δὴ καὶ ἔχουσι ταύτην τὴν αἰτίαν, οἷον οἱ κατὰ τὴν Θρᾴκην τε καὶ Σκυθικὴν καὶ σχεδόν τι κατὰ τὸν ἄνω τόπον· ἢ τὸ φιλομαθές, ὃ δὴ ⟨περὶ⟩ τὸν παρ᾽ ἡμῖν μάλιστ᾽ ἄν τις αἰτιάσαιτο τόπον· ἢ τὸ φιλοχρήματον, ὃ περὶ τούς τε Φοίνικας εἶναι καὶ τοὺς κατ᾽ Αἴγυπτον φαίη τις ἂν οὐχ ἥκιστα.

11.1 · Πλάτωνος

I.47.11.1

Πλάτωνος Πολιτείας δʹ.

Ἴθι δή, φήσομεν πρὸς αὐτόν, ἀποκρίνου. Ἆρα οὕτως ἔλεγες, τὸν μὲν εὐφυῆ πρός τι εἶναι, τὸν δ᾽ ἀφυῆ, ἐν ᾧ ὁ μὲν ῥᾳδίως τι μανθάνοι, ὁ δὲ χαλεπῶς; καὶ ὁ μὲν ἀπὸ βραχείας μαθήσεως ἐπὶ πολὺ εὑρετικὸς εἴη οὗ ἔμαθεν, ὁ δὲ πολλῆς μαθήσεως τυχὼν καὶ μελέτης μηδὲ ἃ ἔμαθε σῴζοιτο;

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10 · Plato: character in persons and cities

I.47.10

From Plato, Republic, Book IV.

“Must we not,” I said, “certainly agree that the same forms and traits of character exist in each of us as in the city? They surely did not arrive there from anywhere else. It would be ridiculous to suppose that spiritedness did not enter cities from the individuals who are reputed to possess it, such as the inhabitants of Thrace and Scythia and, broadly speaking, the northern region; or love of learning, which one might chiefly associate ⟨with⟩ our own region; or love of money, which one might say is especially found among the Phoenicians and the people of Egypt.”1199

11.1 · Plato: natural aptitude

I.47.11.1

From Plato, Republic, Book IV.

“Come now,” we shall say to him, “answer us. Did you mean that one person has a natural aptitude for something and another lacks it when one learns it easily and the other with difficulty; and when one, after a little instruction, can discover much more concerning what he has learned, while the other, despite much instruction and practice, cannot even retain what he has learned?1200

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Stobaeus gathered Greek philosophy and poetry for his son Septimius. Volume I presents the dedication testimony, On Arithmetic, Book I through chapter 60, and the ancient contents of all four books. This complete bilingual edition includes an introduction and 2,117 explanatory notes.

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