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Book I Chapter 49 · I.49.30.3–I.49.30.4
Ancient Greek
p. 113830.3
Πότερον δὴ φῶμέν τινας ἔστιν ὅτε διψῶντας οὐκ ἐθέλειν πιεῖν; - Καὶ μάλα γε, ἔφη, πολλοὺς καὶ πολλάκις. - Τί οὖν, ἔφην ἐγώ, φαίη τις ἂν τούτων πέρι; οὐκ ἐνεῖναι μὲν ἐν τῇ ψυχῇ αὐτῶν τὸ κελεῦον, ἐνεῖναι δὲ τὸ κωλῦον πιεῖν, ἄλλο ὂν καὶ κρατοῦν τοῦ κελεύοντος; - Ἔμοιγε δοκεῖ, ἔφη. - Ἆρ᾽ οὖν οὐ τὸ μὲν κωλῦον τὰ τοιαῦτα ἐγγίγνεται, ὅταν ἐγγένηται, ἐκ λογισμοῦ, τὰ δὲ ἄγοντα καὶ ἕλκοντα διὰ παθημάτων τε καὶ νοσημάτων παραγίγνεται; - Φαίνεται.
30.4
Οὐ δὴ ἀλόγως, ἦν δ᾽ ἐγώ, ἀξιώσομεν αὐτὰ διττά τε καὶ ἕτερα ἀλλήλων εἶναι, τὸ μὲν ᾧ λογίζεται λογιστικὸν προσαγορεύοντες τῆς ψυχῆς, τὸ δ᾽ ᾧ ἐρᾷ τε καὶ πεινῇ καὶ διψῇ καὶ περὶ τὰς ἄλλας ἐπιθυμίας ἐπτόηται ἀλόγιστόν τε καὶ ἐπιθυμητικόν, πληρώσεών τινων καὶ ἡδονῶν ἑταῖρον. - Οὔκ, ἀλλ᾽ εἰκότως, ἔφη, ἡγοίμεθ᾽ ἂν οὕτως.
Stobaeus, Volume I: Book I Chapter 49
p. 113930.3 · What urges drinking and what restrains it
“Do we say, then, that some people are at times thirsty but unwilling to drink?”
“Certainly,” he said, “many people, and often.”
“What, then,” I said, “might one say about them? That their soul contains something commanding them to drink, but also something preventing it, which is different from and masters what commands?”
“So it seems to me,” he said.
“Does not what prevents such acts, when it arises, arise from reasoning, while what drives and pulls comes through affections and illnesses?”
“So it appears.”1405
30.4 · Reason and appetite distinguished
“Then we shall not be unreasonable,” I said, “in judging them to be two and different from one another. We call that with which the soul reasons its rational element, and that with which it loves, hungers, thirsts, and flutters about other desires its unreasoning and appetitive element, the companion of certain satisfactions and pleasures.”
“No,” he said, “we would reasonably regard them in that way.”1406
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