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Book I Chapter 47 · I.47.12.4–I.47.13.1
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p. 93612.4
Τὸ δὲ μετ᾽ εὐπετείας γιγνόμενον ἅπαν αἰσθητὸν μὲν ὅτι μάλιστα, ἡδονῆς ⟨δὲ⟩ καὶ λύπης οὐ μετέχον· οἷον τὰ περὶ τὴν ὄψιν αὐτὴν παθήματα, ἣ δὴ σῶμα ἐν τοῖς ἔμπροσθεν ἐρρήθη καθ᾽ ἡμέραν ξυμφυὲς ἡμῶν γίγνεσθαι.
13.1 · Πλάτωνος
Πλάτωνος ἐκ τοῦ Φιλήβου.
Λέγω τοίνυν, τῆς ἁρμονίας μὲν λυομένης ἡμῖν ἐν τοῖς ζῴοις ἅμα λύσιν τῆς φύσεως καὶ γένεσιν ἀλγηδόνων ἐν τῷ τότε γίγνεσθαι χρόνῳ.
Πάνυ λέγεις εἰκός.
Πάλιν δὲ ἁρμοττομένης τε καὶ εἰς τὴν αὑτῆς φύσιν ἀπιούσης ἡδονὴν γίγνεσθαι λεκτέον, εἰ δεῖ δι᾽ ὀλίγων ὅτι τάχιστα περὶ μεγίστων ῥηθῆναι.
Οἶμαι μέν σε ὀρθῶς λέγειν, ὦ Σώκρατες, ἐμφανέστερον δὲ ἔτι ⟨ταὐτὰ⟩ ταῦτα πειρώμεθα λέγειν.
Stobaeus, Volume I: Book I Chapter 47
p. 93712.4 · Perception without pleasure or pain
Everything that happens with ease is most readily perceived, ⟨but⟩ has no share in pleasure or pain. Such are the affections of sight itself, which, as was said earlier, becomes by day a body continuous with our own.1206
13.1 · Plato: harmony, pain, and pleasure
From Plato, from the Philebus.
“I say, then, that when harmony is dissolved in us living creatures, our natural constitution is dissolved and pains arise at that very time.”
“What you say is quite likely.”
“When harmony is restored and returns to its own natural condition, we must say that pleasure arises, if we are to speak as briefly and quickly as possible about matters of the greatest importance.”
“I think you are right, Socrates, but let us try to state these ⟨same⟩ things still more clearly.”1207
Socrates
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