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Book I Chapter 15 · I.15.5.2–I.15.6a.1
Ancient Greek
p. 3705 Ἐν ταὐτῷ · 2
Ὁ μὲν γὰρ μέσος ἐν αὐτῷ τόπος οὔτε κάτω πεφυκὼς οὔτε ἄνω λέγεσθαι δίκαιος, ἀλλ’ αὐτὸ ἐν μέσῳ· ὁ δὲ πέριξ οὔτε δὴ μέσος, οὔτε ἔχων διάφορον αὑτοῦ μέρος ἕτερον θατέρου μᾶλλον πρὸς τὸ μέσον ἤ τι τῶν καταντικρύ. τοῦ δὲ ὁμοίως πάντῃ πεφυκότος ποῖά τις ἐπιφέρων ὀνόματα αὐτῷ ἐναντία καὶ πῇ καλῶς ἂν ἡγοῖτο λέγειν;
5 Ἐν ταὐτῷ · 3
εἰ γάρ τι καὶ στερεὸν εἴη κατὰ μέσον τοῦ παντὸς ἰσοπαλές, εἰς οὐδὲν ἄν τί ποτε τῶν ἐσχάτων ἐνεχθείη διὰ τὴν πάντῃ ὁμοιότητα αὐτῶν· ἀλλ’ εἰ καὶ περὶ ταὐτὸ πορεύοιτό τις ἐν κύκλῳ, πολλάκις ἂν στὰς ἀντίπους ταὐτὸν αὐτοῦ κάτω καὶ ἄνω προσείποι· τὸ μὲν γὰρ ὅλον, καθάπερ εἴρηται νῦν δή, σφαιροειδὲς ὂν τόπον τινὰ κάτω, τὸν δὲ ἄνω λέγειν ἔχειν οὐκ ἔμφρονος.
6a ⟨Ἀετίου⟩ · 1
Οἱ ἀπὸ Πυθαγόρου [τὸν κόσμον] σφαιρικὰ τὰ σχήματα τῶν τεττάρων στοιχείων· μόνον δὲ τὸ ἀνώτατον πῦρ κωνοειδές.
Stobaeus, Volume I: Book I Chapter 15
p. 3715 Plato, Timaeus 62d-63a, part 2
For its central region cannot properly be called naturally either down or up, but simply in the middle. The surrounding region is not the middle, and no part of it differs from another in its relation to the center or to any of the parts opposite. When something is alike in every direction, what contrary names could someone apply to it, and on what grounds could he consider himself to be speaking correctly?432
5 Plato, Timaeus 62d-63a, part 3
For even if a solid body were evenly balanced at the center of the whole, it would never move toward any of the extremities, because they are alike in every direction. Yet if someone were to travel in a circle around that same body, repeatedly taking a position with his feet pointing the opposite way, he would call the same part of it both down and up. For since the whole is spherical, as was just said, no sensible person would say that it has one region below and another above.433
6a ⟨Aëtius, Opinions⟩: The Pythagoreans
The followers of Pythagoras held [the world] the shapes of the four elements to be spherical; only the uppermost fire is conical.434
Socrates
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