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Book I Chapter 12 · I.12.3.1–I.12.3.2
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p. 3403 ⟨Ἀρείου Διδύμου⟩ · 1
Ζήνωνος ⟨καὶ τῶν ἀπ’ αὐτοῦ⟩. Τὰ ἐννοήματά φασι μήτε τινὰ εἶναι μήτε ποιά, ὡσανεὶ δὲ τινὰ καὶ ὡσανεὶ ποιὰ φαντάσματα ψυχῆς· ταῦτα δὲ ὑπὸ τῶν ἀρχαίων ἰδέας προσαγορεύεσθαι. Τῶν γὰρ κατὰ τὰ ἐννοήματα ὑποπιπτόντων εἶναι τὰς ἰδέας, οἷον ἀνθρώπων, ἵππων, κοινότερον εἰπεῖν πάντων τῶν ζῴων καὶ τῶν ἄλλων ὁπόσων λέγουσιν ἰδέας εἶναι.
3 ⟨Ἀρείου Διδύμου⟩ · 2
Ταύτας δὲ οἱ Στωικοὶ φιλόσοφοί φασιν ἀνυπάρκτους εἶναι καὶ τῶν μὲν ἐννοημάτων μετέχειν ἡμᾶς, τῶν δὲ πτώσεων, ἃς δὴ προσηγορίας καλοῦσι, τυγχάνειν.
Stobaeus, Volume I: Book I Chapter 12
p. 3413 ⟨Arius Didymus⟩: Zeno, part 1
Zeno ⟨and his followers⟩. They say that concepts are neither somethings nor qualified things, but images in the soul that are, as it were, somethings and, as it were, qualified things. These were called “ideas” by the ancients. For the ideas are of things falling under the concepts: for example, human beings and horses, or, more generally, all living creatures and all the other things of which they say there are ideas.386
3 ⟨Arius Didymus⟩: Zeno, part 2
The Stoic philosophers say that these do not subsist, and that we participate in the concepts but obtain the “cases,” which they call “appellations.”387
Socrates
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