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Lysis · 222e–223b
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p. 54οἱ φιλοῦντες μήτε οἱ ὅμοιοι μήτε οἱ ἀνόμοιοι μήτε οἱ ἀγαθοὶ μήτε οἱ οἰκεῖοι μήτε τὰ ἄλλα ὅσα διεληλύθαμεν—οὐ γὰρ ἔγωγε ἔτι μέμνημαι ὑπὸ τοῦ πλήθους—ἀλλ’ εἰ μηδὲν τούτων φίλον ἐστίν, ἐγὼ μὲν οὐκέτι ἔχω τί λέγω.
223aΤαῦτα δ’ εἰπὼν ἐν νῷ εἶχον ἄλλον ἤδη τινὰ τῶν πρεσβυτέρων κινεῖν· κᾆτα, ὥσπερ δαίμονές τινες, προσελθόντες οἱ παιδαγωγοί, ὅ τε τοῦ Μενεξένου καὶ ὁ τοῦ Λύσιδος, ἔχοντες αὐτῶν τοὺς ἀδελφούς, παρεκάλουν καὶ ἐκέλευον αὐτοὺς οἴκαδ’ ἀπιέναι· ἤδη γὰρ ἦν ὀψέ. τὸ μὲν οὖν πρῶτον καὶ ἡμεῖς καὶ οἱ περιεστῶτες αὐτοὺς ἀπηλαύνομεν· ἐπειδὴ δὲ οὐδὲν ἐφρόντιζον ἡμῶν, ἀλλ’ ὑποβαρβαρίζοντες ἠγανάκτουν τε καὶ 223b οὐδὲν ἧττον ἐκάλουν, ἀλλ’ ἐδόκουν ἡμῖν ὑποπεπωκότες ἐν τοῖς Ἑρμαίοις ἄποροι εἶναι προσφέρεσθαι, ἡττηθέντες οὖν αὐτῶν διελύσαμεν τὴν συνουσίαν. ὅμως δ’ ἔγωγε ἤδη ἀπιόντων αὐτῶν, Νῦν μέν, ἦν δ’ ἐγώ, ὦ Λύσι τε καὶ Μενέξενε, καταγέλαστοι γεγόναμεν ἐγώ τε, γέρων ἀνήρ, καὶ ὑμεῖς. ἐροῦσι γὰρ οἵδε ἀπιόντες ὡς οἰόμεθα ἡμεῖς ἀλλήλων φίλοι εἶναι— καὶ ἐμὲ γὰρ ἐν ὑμῖν τίθημι—οὔπω δὲ ὅτι ἔστιν ὁ φίλος οἷοί τε ἐγενόμεθα ἐξευρεῖν.
Lysis
p. 55those who love, nor those who are like, nor those who are unlike, nor the good, nor those who are akin, nor any of the other things we have gone through — for I for my part no longer remember them, there are so many — but if none of these is a friend, I no longer know what to say.”
223aHaving said this, I had it in mind to rouse someone else now, one of the older people; and then, like spirits of some kind, the tutors came up, Menexenus’ and Lysis’, bringing the boys’ brothers, and called to them and told them to go home; for it was already late. At first both we and those standing around set about driving them off; but when they paid no heed to us, but were annoyed, in their half-foreign Greek, and 223b went on calling them none the less, but seemed to us, having had a bit to drink at the Hermaea,1 impossible to deal with, we yielded to them and broke up the gathering. All the same, as they were already going away, I said, “Now, Lysis and Menexenus, we have become ridiculous, I, an old man, and you. For these people, as they go away, will say that we think we are friends of one another — for I put myself, too, among you — but have not yet been able to find out what the friend is.”
Socrates
Reading Lysis · Lysis · 222e–223b
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Socrates will begin with this book and its sources.About This Reading Edition
The complete Lysis, 203a–223b: Socrates questions Lysis and Menexenus about friendship, love, desire, and what is akin, as Hippothales listens. Burnet’s Greek faces a new Diotimos Editions English translation, with an introduction, key words, outline, glossary, critical apparatus, and linked translator notes.
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Greek: Plato, Lysis, in John Burnet, Platonis Opera, volume III (Oxford, 1903; second impression, corrected, January 1909, printed by Horace Hart). The words were taken from the Perseus Digital Library transcription and checked against photographs of this impression by the supplied edition; Burnet’s lineation and critical apparatus are retained. The digital Greek transcription and its modifications are attributed to the Perseus Digital Library, Tufts University, under CC BY-SA 4.0. English translation and editorial matter: Diotimos Editions, 2026.
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