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Lysis · 206e–207c
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p. 12ἀστραγαλίζοντάς τε δὴ καὶ κεκοσμημένους ἅπαντας. οἱ μὲν οὖν πολλοὶ ἐν τῇ αὐλῇ ἔπαιζον ἔξω, οἱ δέ τινες τοῦ ἀποδυτηρίου ἐν γωνίᾳ ἠρτίαζον ἀστραγάλοις παμπόλλοις, ἐκ φορμίσκων τινῶν προαιρούμενοι· τούτους δὲ περιέστασαν ἄλλοι θεωροῦντες. ὧν δὴ καὶ ὁ Λύσις ἦν, καὶ εἱστήκει ἐν 207a τοῖς παισί τε καὶ νεανίσκοις ἐστεφανωμένος καὶ τὴν ὄψιν διαφέρων, οὐ τὸ καλὸς εἶναι μόνον ἄξιος ἀκοῦσαι, ἀλλ’ ὅτι καλός τε κἀγαθός. καὶ ἡμεῖς εἰς τὸ καταντικρὺ ἀποχωρήσαντες ἐκαθεζόμεθα—ἦν γὰρ αὐτόθι ἡσυχία—καί τι ἀλλήλοις διελεγόμεθα. περιστρεφόμενος οὖν ὁ Λύσις θαμὰ ἐπεσκοπεῖτο ἡμᾶς, καὶ δῆλος ἦν ἐπιθυμῶν προσελθεῖν. τέως μὲν οὖν ἠπόρει τε καὶ ὤκνει μόνος προσιέναι, ἔπειτα ὁ Μενέξενος 207b ἐκ τῆς αὐλῆς μεταξὺ παίζων εἰσέρχεται, καὶ ὡς εἶδεν ἐμέ τε καὶ τὸν Κτήσιππον, ᾔει παρακαθιζησόμενος· ἰδὼν οὖν αὐτὸν ὁ Λύσις εἵπετο καὶ συμπαρεκαθέζετο μετὰ τοῦ Μενεξένου. προσῆλθον δὴ καὶ οἱ ἄλλοι, καὶ δὴ καὶ ὁ Ἱπποθάλης, ἐπειδὴ πλείους ἑώρα ἐφισταμένους, τούτους ἐπηλυγισάμενος προσέστη ᾗ μὴ ᾤετο κατόψεσθαι τὸν Λύσιν, δεδιὼς μὴ αὐτῷ ἀπεχθάνοιτο· καὶ οὕτω προσεστὼς ἠκροᾶτο.
Καὶ ἐγὼ πρὸς τὸν Μενέξενον ἀποβλέψας, Ὦ παῖ Δημο207cφῶντος, ἦν δ’ ἐγώ, πότερος ὑμῶν πρεσβύτερος;
Ἀμφισβητοῦμεν, ἔφη.
Οὐκοῦν καὶ ὁπότερος γενναιότερος, ἐρίζοιτ’ ἄν, ἦν δ’ ἐγώ.
Πάνυ γε, ἔφη.
Καὶ μὴν ὁπότερός γε καλλίων, ὡσαύτως.
Ἐγελασάτην οὖν ἄμφω.
Οὐ μὴν ὁπότερός γε, ἔφην, πλουσιώτερος ὑμῶν, οὐκ ἐρήσομαι· φίλω γάρ ἐστον. ἦ γάρ;
Lysis
p. 13and that they were all playing knucklebones, dressed in their finery.1 Most of them were playing outside in the courtyard, but some were playing odds and evens in a corner of the undressing-room with a great many knucklebones, taking them out of some little baskets; and others stood round them, watching. Lysis too was one of these; and he stood among 207a the boys and young men, wearing a garland, outstanding in looks, worthy to hear himself called not just “beautiful” but “beautiful and good.”2 And we withdrew to the opposite side and sat down, for it was quiet there, and talked a little with one another. Lysis kept turning round and looking at us, and it was plain that he desired to come over. For a while he was at a loss, and hesitated to come over alone; then Menexenus, 207b in the middle of his game, comes in from the courtyard, and when he saw me and Ctesippus, he came to sit down beside us. Seeing him, Lysis followed and sat down beside us with Menexenus. The others came up as well, and in particular Hippothales, when he saw that quite a number were standing there, used them for cover and stood by where he thought Lysis would not see him,3 afraid of making himself hateful to him; and so, standing by, he listened.
And I looked at Menexenus and said, “Son of Demophon, 207c which of you two is the elder?”
“We dispute it,” he said.
“Then you would quarrel too over which is the nobler,” I said.
“Very much so,” he said.
“And over which is the more beautiful, likewise.”
At this they both laughed.
“Which of you is the richer, though,” I said, “I shan’t ask; for you two are friends. Isn’t that so?”
Socrates
Reading Lysis · Lysis · 206e–207c
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Socrates will begin with this book and its sources.About This Reading Edition
The complete Lysis, 203a–223b: Socrates questions Lysis and Menexenus about friendship, love, desire, and what is akin, as Hippothales listens. Burnet’s Greek faces a new Diotimos Editions English translation, with an introduction, key words, outline, glossary, critical apparatus, and linked translator notes.
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Greek: Plato, Lysis, in John Burnet, Platonis Opera, volume III (Oxford, 1903; second impression, corrected, January 1909, printed by Horace Hart). The words were taken from the Perseus Digital Library transcription and checked against photographs of this impression by the supplied edition; Burnet’s lineation and critical apparatus are retained. The digital Greek transcription and its modifications are attributed to the Perseus Digital Library, Tufts University, under CC BY-SA 4.0. English translation and editorial matter: Diotimos Editions, 2026.
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