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Marsilio Ficino’s Platonic Theology, Volume II
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Book VIII · Chapter 10 · § 2
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p. 352Esset autem mentis operatio sublimior quam substantia, si substantia quidem eius certum corpus esset solummodo, intelligentia vero eius et corpora quaeque et incorporea comprehenderet. Quapropter non est corpus, quandoquidem ultra corpora quaelibet apprehendit etiam incorporea. Atqui neque etiam est forma aliqua mixta corpori. Nam forma mixta, sicut per corporis divisionem fit dividua, sic fit qualis per corporis qualitatem. Ideoque certam quandam mens sibi contraheret qualitatem a corpore, per quam ipsa ad certam speciem corporalium rerum determinata certam speciem corporalium cognosceret solum, sicut visus per oculum ad colores contrahitur. Et formas simillimas non caperet, ut diximus, neque etiam dissimillimas. Atque haec Aristotelis sententia est Platonicis comprobata. Sed addunt Platonici quod mens, si mixta esset, neque caperet incorporea, quia quod mixtum est sincera non comprehendit, neque affectaret attingere aliquid a corpore separatum; alioquin affectaret a corpore separari atque dissolvi. Neque aliter cognosceret quam moveatur, sicut materialis potentia solet. Nunc autem non ut movetur, sed ut ipsa sibimet efficit species, sic abstrahit, discurrit, seque in se quasi absque fine reflectit. Neque obstrepat hic nostris auribus Epicureus aliquis negans intellectum incorporalia capere. Sane et cupit illa semper, et capit sola summa cum voluptate tamquam ipsi simillima. Neque solum illa cupit et capit, sed etiam procreat. Quid enim nos aliud modo in his disputationibus nitimur nisi rem aliquam mentis nostrae, ut ita loquar, manibus fingere a corpore alienissimam? Quam finximus iam et fingimus, atque iis ipsis mentis manibus attrectamus. Et antequam effingeremus, prospeximus effingendam. Nempe cum primum statuimus animam monstrare incorpoream esse, videbamus iam aliquem alicubi incorporealis naturae gradum, ad quem perducere animam volebamus. Quid quotidie facimus disputando? Quoties esse rem aliquam asseveramus quae existat quidem, nullam vero habeat longitudinem, latitudinem, profunditatem, vel qualitatem aliquam, vel figuram, tunc certe spiritum quendam mente creamus supra corpus et corporis passiones. Ibi profecto nostra mens est ubi parit; parit, inquam, prolem sibi persimilem, nullo modo substantia sua sublimiorem. Igitur mens nostra corpora et condiciones corporum supereminet. Quamobrem neque loco clauditur neque temporum limitibus circumscribitur. Ubique igitur esse potest et semper. Idcirco nihil prohibet illam fore perpetuam.
Marsilio Ficino’s Platonic Theology, Volume II: Book VIII
p. 353Yet the mind’s activity would be more sublime than its substance if its substance were merely some definite body while its understanding embraced every body and incorporeal things as well. The mind is therefore not a body, since beyond every kind of body it also apprehends the incorporeal. Nor, again, is the mind a form mixed with a body. For just as a mixed form becomes divisible through the body’s division, so it takes its character from the body’s quality. The mind would therefore contract some determinate quality from the body. Confined by it to one species of bodily things, it would know only that species, just as sight is confined through the eye to colors. And, as we have said, it would receive neither forms most like itself nor forms most unlike it. The Platonists confirm this teaching of Aristotle. They add that if the mind were mixed with a body, it would not grasp incorporeal things, because what is mixed does not comprehend what is pure; nor would it desire to reach anything separate from body, for then it would desire to be separated from the body and dissolved. It would know only in the manner in which it is moved, as a material potency is accustomed to do. Yet the mind does not abstract, range in thought, and reflect back upon itself almost without end by being moved, but by producing forms for itself. And let no Epicurean clamoring in our ears deny that the intellect grasps incorporeal things. Indeed, the mind always desires incorporeal things, and it alone grasps them with supreme delight, as things most like itself. It not only desires and grasps them, but even brings them forth. For what else are we now attempting in these arguments except, so to speak, to fashion with the hands of our mind a thing utterly alien to body? We have already fashioned it and are fashioning it still, and with those same hands of the mind we touch and handle it. Before we fashioned it, moreover, we foresaw that it was to be fashioned. For when we first resolved to show that the soul is incorporeal, we already beheld somewhere a certain degree of incorporeal nature toward which we wished to lead the soul. What do we do each day in disputation? Whenever we affirm that some thing exists although it has no length, breadth, depth, quality, or figure, we assuredly create in the mind a certain spirit above body and the passions of body. Our mind is truly present where it gives birth; it gives birth, I say, to an offspring most like itself and in no way more sublime than its own substance. Our mind therefore rises above bodies and the conditions of bodies. Hence it is neither enclosed by place nor circumscribed by the limits of time. It can therefore exist everywhere and always; and so nothing prevents it from being perpetual.
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Volume II continues Ficino’s inquiry into the immortality of the soul through Books V–VIII. Its arguments consider the rational soul’s self-motion, its relation to the body, sensation, and the powers of the mind. The Latin and independent English translation follow the supplied edition’s facing pages and matching comparison units.
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