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Clovis Hesteau de Nuysement

Sal Lumen and Spiritus Mundi Philosophici

Treatises on the True Salt and the Universal Spirit of the World

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1621 pp. 105–107 · scans FR125, FR126, FR127

Nos Theologiens veulent aussi qu'en ce mesme lieu soient les enfers, & les tourmens des ames: se persuadant qu'estant bien veritable que les influences de tous les astres qui sont de nature ignee y tombent, il y doive avoir une ardeur incroyable. L'on peut sans doute appeller ce lieu infernal, puis qu'il n'y a rien de plus bas: Mais que les ames y soient tourmentees par ce feu, & que l'ardeur d'iceluy soit ou puisse estre telle qu'ils disent, cela semble esloigné de la raison, & des vrays axiomes de Philosophie. Car, outre que les ames n'occupent aucun lieu, par leur confession mesme, & que leur naturel apres qu'elles ont quitté le fardeau de leurs corps est de tendre & se porter en haut, à cause de leur legereté spirituelle, qui tient plus de la qualité ignee que de toute autre; elles ne peuvent qu'avec violence, ny comme legeres estre demergees en ce lieu sousterrain, ny comme simples patir l'action du feu qui n'a point d'empire sur son semblable. Pourquoy veulent-ils donc qu'elles descendent en ce lieu pour y estre tourmentees? si ce n'est que le pesant fardeau du peché dont elles sont enveloppees, deprimant leur naturel les porte en bas & face descendre au centre de la terre: & que le mesme peché encore s'estant emparé & comme incorporé avec elles il se face je ne sçay quelle composition qui les rende passibles & subjectes, non à l'action simple & naturelle de ce feu, mais peut estre à la violence d'un autre feu creé de Dieu à cet effect: & peut estre de ce feu mesme dont nous parlons, son action luy estant redoublee par une secrette & vertu divine: ce qui est fort probable, & semble estre authorisé de l'escriture saincte: Toutefois je ne veux temerairement faire opinion à part; non plus que m'escarter de la foy orthodoxe; au soustien de laquelle j'ay de long temps voué ma vie, & le peu d'industrie que je tiens du Ciel.

1621 pp. 105–107 · scans FR125, FR126, FR127

Sal Lumen and Spiritus Mundi Philosophici: Book Two · Chapter 2

1621 pp. 105–107 · scans FR125, FR126, FR127

Our theologians also maintain that hell and the torments of souls are in this same place. They persuade themselves that, since the influences of all the stars, which are fiery in nature, certainly fall there, an incredible heat must exist there. One may undoubtedly call this place infernal, since nothing lies lower. But that souls should be tormented there by this fire, and that its heat should or could be such as they say, seems remote from reason and the true axioms of philosophy. By their own admission souls occupy no place; and after leaving the burden of their bodies, their nature is to tend and rise upwards because of their spiritual lightness, which partakes more of the fiery quality than of any other. As light things they cannot be submerged in this underground place except by force; nor, as simple things, can they undergo the action of fire, which has no dominion over its like. Why, then, do they maintain that souls descend there to be tormented? Unless the heavy burden of sin in which they are enveloped oppresses their nature, bears them down and makes them descend to the centre of the earth; and unless that same sin, having taken possession of them and become, as it were, incorporated with them, produces some composition—I know not what—which makes them capable of suffering and subject, not to the simple and natural action of this fire, but perhaps to the violence of another fire created by God for this purpose. Or perhaps it is this very fire of which we speak, its action being redoubled by a secret and divine power. This is highly probable and seems to be authorised by Holy Scripture. Nevertheless, I do not wish rashly to set up a separate opinion, any more than to depart from the orthodox faith, to whose defence I have long dedicated my life and the little skill I have received from Heaven.

1621 pp. 105–107 · scans FR125, FR126, FR127

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The complete French text of 1621 with a new English translation, all three books, preliminary texts, nine concluding sonnets, original errata, 299 annotations and the complete supplied study apparatus.

Historical Text and Translation

Clovis Hesteau de Nuysement, Traittez de l’harmonie et constitution generalle du vray sel, secret des Philosophes, & de l’Esprit universelle du Monde. Paris: Jérémie Périer and Abdias Buisard, 1621. The governing witness is the BnF/Gallica reproduction, ark:/12148/bpt6k656273. The reproduced privilege is dated 6 November 1620; the separate eighty-page Poème philosophic of 1620 is outside this edition.

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