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The Notebooks of Joseph Joubert, Volume I
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YEAR 1787 · Entry 137
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p. 27323 juillet 1787.
Il n’y a pas dans les anciens un seul exemple d’un discours suspendu par un autre que par celui-là même qui parle. C’est à dire qu’on trouve bien chez eux de ces réticences que nous avons regardées comme une beauté, mais aucune de ces interruptions causées par un interlocuteur qui ôte la parole à un interlocuteur précédent ; interruptions que nous désignons par des points.
C’est qu’ils n’avoient pas comme nous cette étourderie et cette vivacité qui nous porte à nous arracher la parole ; chose commune dans nos mœurs, mais inouïe chez eux qui, tranquilles et calmes comme des sauvages, attendoient toujours leur tour avec patience et auroient, pour ainsi dire, cru offenser le dieu de la parole, s’ils n’avoient pas permis à un discours d’arriver à sa fin et de parvenir à sa perfection.
(Au moins dans les discours publics. Car, dans leurs conversations, il étoit possible qu’ils s’interrompissent quelquefois ; et le mot excepit, qu’ils disent quelquefois au lieu du tum ille, semble indiquer une reprise assés vive pour être regardée comme une interruption. Je crois pourtant que ce mot n’exprime qu’une réplique prompte et qui suit de près la fin d’un autre discours. Circonstance remarquable chez eux, où entre un discours et un autre il s’écouloit quelque intervalle. Celui qui répliquoit méditoit quelque temps et se préparoit comme font encore les sauvages. Ainsi les longs vers d’Homère, — tum allocutus est pedibus velox achilles — qui séparent une harangue d’une autre par tout l’intervalle d’un hexamètre, sont une fidèle image de ce qui s’observoit dans leurs assemblées.)
The Notebooks of Joseph Joubert, Volume I: YEAR 1787
p. 274July 23, 1787.
There is not in the ancients a single example of a discourse suspended by anyone other than the speaker himself. That is, one does find in them those reticences we have regarded as a beauty, but none of those interruptions caused by one interlocutor taking the floor from a previous interlocutor; interruptions that we designate by dots.
It is because they did not have, as we do, that thoughtlessness and vivacity that lead us to snatch the floor from one another: a thing common in our ways of life, but unheard of among them, who, tranquil and calm as savages, always waited their turn patiently and would, so to speak, have thought they were offending the god of speech if they had not allowed a discourse to reach its end and attain its perfection.
(At least in public discourses. For in their conversations they may sometimes have interrupted one another; and the word excepit, which they sometimes use in place of tum ille, seems to indicate a rejoinder lively enough to be regarded as an interruption. Yet I believe this word expresses only a prompt reply that closely follows the end of another discourse. A noteworthy circumstance among them, where some interval elapsed between one discourse and another. The one replying meditated for a time and prepared himself, as savages still do. Thus Homer’s long verses — tum allocutus est pedibus velox Achilles — which separate one harangue from another by the whole interval of a hexameter, are a faithful image of what was observed in their assemblies.)
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Joubert’s notebooks return to the work of thinking and writing, the demands of friendship, and questions of faith, beauty and conduct. This edition pairs the French with a new English translation, preserving the order of the chosen source and the unfinished character of its fragments. Dates and source references allow readers to follow a thought through time or return to its printed context.
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The French text follows André Beaunier’s 1938 edition of Les Carnets de Joseph Joubert, published by Gallimard from Joubert’s autograph manuscripts. Volume I presents the entries on printed pages 32–475. French and English are aligned paragraph by paragraph, retaining the source order, printed dates and page references so readers can return to the facsimile.
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