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Discourse on the Universal · Passage 9
German
In summa er weisete mir im Ludo Puerorum, Rosario, Raimundo, Arnoldo, Turba Philosophorum, Augurello und andern die Concordantzen und debitam materiam Philosophorum, und recommendirte mir obgedachtes Büchlein / sagte auch / daß nach Lehre desselben / wofern ich verstünde das putrificiren im tiefen Keller / daß nichts als das Philosophische Feuer / ohne welches nichts wäre / so würde GOtt wol seine Gnade verleihen. Dieweil ich aber froh war / und gedachte / diesen Mann / wie er mir zusagte zu bleiben / den andern Tag gewiß zu haben / so kamen auch andre / daß es auf ein Trunck hinausliefe / und ich leider! die Practicam nicht ex ore ipsius auffschriebe / auffn Morgen / da ich vermeinte / mein Gast schlieffe / und ich vor hatte / ihn zu tractiren / war er hinweg / hat 2. Mayländische Stück Goldes von 3 fl. (da er doch nicht einen verzehrt / hätte auch nichts genommen) dem Haußknecht geben / gesagt: Er wolte nach Wittenberg / da ich aufgestanden und es erfahren / dacht ich / mein Hertz würde mir vor Unmuth zerspringen / fuhr mit meinem Wäglein hernach / fand aber niemand auf der Strassen / glaube nicht daß er des Wegs willens zu ziehen gewesen / ist wol auf Eißleben seine Reise gewesen / denn er vom Eißlebischen Bergwerck / so in Italien beruffen seyn soll / zuvor geschwatzt / und die zu sehen begehrt. Er nannte sich Martinum de Delle, sagte / er wäre aus dem Hertzogthumb Meyland / und einem Städtlein hieß Vitri.
English
In short, he showed me the agreement of the philosophers and their proper matter in the Ludus puerorum, the Rosarium, Raymond, Arnold, the Turba philosophorum, Augurellus, and others. He recommended the little book already mentioned. He also said that if I followed its teaching and understood putrefaction in the deep cellar—which is nothing other than the philosophical fire, without which there would be nothing—God would surely grant his grace. I was delighted and thought I would certainly have this man with me the next day, since he had promised to stay. But others came, the occasion ended in drinking, and, alas, I did not write down the practice from his own mouth. In the morning, when I supposed my guest was asleep and intended to entertain him, he had gone. He had given the house servant two Milanese gold pieces of three florins, although he had not consumed one florin’s worth and I would have charged him nothing. He said he was going to Wittenberg. When I got up and learned this, I thought my heart would burst with vexation. I followed in my little wagon but found nobody on the road. I do not believe he had intended to travel that way. He probably went towards Eisleben, for he had previously spoken of the Eisleben mines, which are said to be renowned in Italy, and wanted to see them. He called himself Martin de Delle and said he came from the duchy of Milan, from a little town called Vitri.
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The complete supplied German–English edition of the 1682 collection: the main treatise attributed to Ali Puli, Helbig’s preface, distinct companion discourses, the short potable-gold preparation and the anonymous Father’s Last Testament, with four historical figures, 103 annotations and the full Diotimos study apparatus.
Historical Text and Translation
The governing German witness is the complete 1682 collection in Badische Landesbibliothek Karlsruhe, shelfmark 87 B 76050, with an unnumbered title and printed pages 1–80. The historical title’s Arabic and Portuguese antecedents and its authorial persona are retained as claims, not authenticated originals. Johann Otto Helbig (Hellwig), Martin de Delle, J. J. F. and the anonymous testament retain their distinct historical roles.
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