Diotimos Library · Esotericism & Spirituality Collection · Bilingual Edition
Swipe or use the arrow keys.
English Page · Branch 119 of 175
Philosophical Discourse · Passage 24
German
Es waren aber bey ihm 2. Studiosi Wittebergenses. Einer Nicolaus Clobes; Mathem. Candidatus. 2. Jonas Agricola Friburg und ein Zwickauer / ein böser Bube: Der Schotte von den andern instigirt; Er solle / wo er wieder befehlen möchte zu gebrauchen / umb das Secret der Medicin anhalten; thats über der Mahlzeit / aber mit Sebast. höchlichen verweisen; sagende: Er hätte sich keines Uberfalls wieder zu befürchten; Er solte GOtt und ihm dancken. Es war Lapis Philosophorum: und gestund: Es könte der Metalle transmutation geschehen; nahm ein Zinnern Löffel auf den obstant, instant der Studiosus schütte drein wenig Tinctur / hielts übers Licht / rieb die mit dem Finger im Löffel rumb / thät die Tinctur wieder mählich ins Glaß / so weit die Tinctur den Löffel berühret / so weit hat sie penetrirt / zu hohen ☉ verwandelt / begehrte der Schotte nochmals / so nicht Entdeckung / doch Communication wenigs von der Tinctur selbst die Alchymia zu defendiren; aber Seb. Siebenfreund / antwortete: Sufficiens Testimonium esse Corpus suum; ließ ihm doch den Löffel;
English
There were with him two Wittenberg students: one, Nicolaus Clobes, a candidate in mathematics; the second, Jonas Agricola of Friburg; and a man from Zwickau, a wicked fellow. The others urged the Scot to ask for the secret of the medicine, in case he should again need to use it. He did so during the meal, but Sebastian strongly rebuked him, saying he need fear no further attack and should thank God and him. It was the Philosophers’ Stone; Sebastian admitted that transmutation of metals could be accomplished. At the student’s insistence he took a tin spoon, poured a little tincture into it, held it over the light, and rubbed it round the spoon with his finger. He gradually returned the tincture to the glass. As far as the tincture had touched the spoon, it had penetrated and transformed it into high-grade gold. The Scot again requested, if not disclosure, then at least a little of the tincture itself, to defend alchemy. But Sebastian Siebenfreund answered that his own body was sufficient testimony. He did, however, leave him the spoon.
Socrates
Reading Centrum Naturae Concentratum · Philosophical Discourse · Philosophical Discourse · Passage 24
Ask about a concept, passage, contradiction, or connection.
Socrates will begin with this book and its sources.About This Reading Edition
The complete supplied German–English edition of the 1682 collection: the main treatise attributed to Ali Puli, Helbig’s preface, distinct companion discourses, the short potable-gold preparation and the anonymous Father’s Last Testament, with four historical figures, 103 annotations and the full Diotimos study apparatus.
Historical Text and Translation
The governing German witness is the complete 1682 collection in Badische Landesbibliothek Karlsruhe, shelfmark 87 B 76050, with an unnumbered title and printed pages 1–80. The historical title’s Arabic and Portuguese antecedents and its authorial persona are retained as claims, not authenticated originals. Johann Otto Helbig (Hellwig), Martin de Delle, J. J. F. and the anonymous testament retain their distinct historical roles.
About Diotimos Editions
This historical edition credits Diotimos Editions as its English translator.
Rights
The historical German source text and engraving are in the public domain. The English translation and editorial material were prepared with AI assistance for Diotimos Editions in 2026, with a supplied translation and sign commentary identified separately, and are published with the site owner’s authorization.