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By Counsel and Persuasion, the Foulness of the Deed, the Faults of Men And…
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556By counsel and perswasion, foulness of the fact, mens, womens faults, miseries of marriage, events of lust, &c.
As there be divers causes of this burning lust, or heroical love; so there be many good remedies to ease and help; amongst which, good counsel and perswasion, which I should have handled in the first place, are of great moment, and not to be omitted. Many are of opinion, that in this blind head-strong passion, counsel can do no good.
Quæ enim res in se neque consilium neque modum Habet, ullo eam consilio regere non potes.Which thing hath neither judgement, or an end, How should advice or counsel it amend?—— Quis enim modus adsit amori?But without question, good counsel and advice must needs be of great force, especially if it shall proceed from a wise, fatherly, reverent, discreet person, a man of authority whom the parties do respect, stand in awe of, or from a judicious friend; of it self alone, it is able to divert and suffice.
Gordonius the Physitian attributes so much to it, that he would have it by all means used in the first place. Amoveatur ab illa, consilio viri quem timet, ostendendo pericula sæculi, judicium inferni, gaudia Paradisi.
He would have some discreet men to disswade them, after the fury of passion is a little spent, or by absence allayed; for it is as intempestive at first, to give counsel, as to comfort parents when their children are in that instant departed; to no purpose to prescribe Narcoticks, Cordials, Nectarines, potions, Homers Nepenthes, or Helenas Boul, &c. Non cessabit pectus tundere, she will lament and howl for a season:
let passion have his course a while, and then he may proceed, by fore-shewing the miserable events and dangers which will surely happen, the pains of hell, joys of Paradise, and the like, which by their preposterous courses they shall forfeit or incurre; and ’tis a fit method, a very good means: for what Seneca said of vice, I say of love, Sine magistro discitur, vix sine magistro deseritur, ’tis learned of it self, but hardly left without a Tutor.
’Tis not amiss therefore to have some such overseer, to expostulate and shew them such absurdities, inconveniences, imperfections, discontents, as usually follow; which their blindness, fury, madness, cannot apply unto themselves, or will not apprehend through weakness: and good for them to disclose themselves, to give ear to friendly admonitions.
Tell me sweet-heart, (saith Tryphena to a love-sick Charmides in Lucian) what is that troubles thee; peradventure I can ease thy mind, and further thee in thy suit; and so without question she might, and so maist thou, if the Patient be capable of good counsel, and will hear at least what may be said.
The Anatomy of Melancholy: By Counsel and Persuasion, the Foulness of the Deed, the Faults of Men And…
p. 847By counsel and persuasion, the foulness of the deed, the faults of men and women, the miseries of marriage, the consequences of lust, and so forth
As there are various causes of this burning lust, or heroic love, so there are many good remedies to relieve and help it. Among them, good counsel and persuasion, which I should have discussed first, are of great importance and must not be omitted. Many believe that counsel can do no good in this blind, headstrong passion.
For a thing that has neither reason nor measure in itself You cannot govern by any counsel.
A thing with neither judgment nor a limit— How should advice or counsel put it right?
For what limit can there be to love?
Yet good counsel and advice must undoubtedly have great power, especially when they come from a wise, fatherly, venerable and prudent person, someone of authority whom the people concerned respect and stand in awe of, or from a friend of sound judgment. By itself, it can turn them aside and be sufficient.
The physician Gordonius gives it such weight that he insists it should be used first. “Let him be turned away from her by the counsel of a man he fears, who shows him the dangers of this world, the judgment of hell and the joys of Paradise.”
He would have prudent men dissuade them after the passion’s fury is somewhat spent or softened by absence. At first, giving counsel is as ill-timed as comforting parents at the very moment their children have died. It is useless to prescribe narcotics, cordials, nectar-like draughts, potions, Homer’s nepenthe or Helen’s bowl: “she will not stop beating her breast.” She will lament and howl for a time.
Let passion run its course for a while; then he may proceed by setting out the miserable consequences and dangers that will surely follow, the pains of hell, the joys of Paradise and the like, which their perverse conduct will make them forfeit or incur. This is a fitting method, a very good means. For what Seneca said of vice I say of love: “It is learned without a teacher, but scarcely abandoned without one.” It is learned by itself, but hardly left behind without a tutor.
It is therefore useful to have such a supervisor to reason with them and show them the absurdities, troubles, imperfections and discontents that usually follow. In their blindness, fury and madness they cannot apply these to themselves, or through weakness will not acknowledge them. It is good for them to disclose their feelings and listen to friendly warnings.
“Tell me, sweetheart,” says Tryphaena to the lovesick Charmides in Lucian, “what is troubling you. Perhaps I can ease your mind and help you in your courtship.” Undoubtedly she could, and so can you, if the patient is receptive to good advice and will at least hear what can be said.
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